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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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That's not what's happening. People are being de-platformed for carrying out or inciting harassment and violence. The only thing that's changed is that we've decided that it's unacceptable to hide behind passive speech when it's obvious to a reasonable observer what you mean to do. E.g., "I heard there might be a fire in this theater!", "My friend says there's a fire in this theater!", "It'd be great if someone yelle…

>hide behind passive speech when it's obvious to a reasonable observer This is so overloaded with subjectivity, and it's the main problem of why regulating speech remains problematic and dangerous. I can apply this statement to anything and validate what I claim is the baseline for objectivity.

Well, sometimes subjectivity is necessary. Our systems of justice are loaded with reasonability and community standards tests, because the ultimate arbiter of right or wrong in cases of harassment or morality often is, "Did it make someone feel bad?". I guess that sucks for the people who don't care about making others feels bad, but having to consider what your actions (speech is an action) might mean for others down the line is generally considered prudent. All that's happened now is that that notion's been given teeth.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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what happened 8 years ago?

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You broke the site guidelines by posting this. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here?

Here are various explanations if you want to read some:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21200971

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21201077

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21199884

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21195089

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21195898

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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Devil's advocate here: They probably put this check in place due to the extremely high number of hacked Battle.net accounts.

Don't even need to play Devil's Advocate here. I guarantee 100% that this is the exact reason. If they're truly deleting ALL your data, could you imagine the customer service nightmare if someone's account got hacked and the attacker could issue a request to delete the entire account with no method for recovery?

What's the point? Anyone can buy fake id scans for $50 at most, $20 if you aren't getting ripped off.

Blizzard obviously doesn't authenticate these IDs as that isn't really possible.

The fact that you can do essentially anything to a Battle.net account with just an ID scan is a huge vulnerability.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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If you look carefully the controversial discussion wasn't started by me but by the comment Steltek wrote below my post. I think you do owe me the courtesy of recognizing this and in that case detaching that comment might have been the right course of action instead of throwing threats towards me. It is relevant in the sense that in the sciences department (FOR NOW) we don't judge scientific discovery or papers by the…

I don't mean to pick on you personally, but it was clearly your comment that brought in the "unrelated controversy and generic tangent" that the site guidelines ask users to avoid. Steltek ought not to have stoked the flames, but the fate of the thread was already determined at that point, which is why phrase that guideline that way. I'm sorry you felt like I was throwing threats at you—definitely not how I want a co…

Ok, I appreciate the clarification

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Translation: "Let me dismiss and trivialize that which I'm too scared to admit might be true." Good luck keeping on pretending the opinions of a large chunk of the world don't exist, don't make sense or don't matter. Or maybe it's you who needs to expand your mind, show a bit of empathy and try to understand the other side? Sure, I guess it's easier to pretend the other side doesn't really exist, than to come to unde…

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Nope, dude/tte, thanks for proving MY points so succinctly. You rush to dismiss and trivialize any comment that disagrees with your ignorance, by pretending it must be somehow not credible because it's "paid Chinese government content". BTW, that sounds quite paranoid. Perhaps time to see a psychiatrist, hmm? Let me ask you, are the Chinese agents in the room with you, right now?

Anyway, it's clear you are NOT listening to as-you-are-unqualified-to-judge "genuine" Chinese people. But keep pretending you are, just for kicks, for us all, thanks!

Anyway, anyway, please please please get away from the useless, pathetic and afraid ad hominem and consider the arguments. Can you realistically support the actions of violent criminals trashing property and beating up dissenters, but disguising their actions as "standing with" so-called freedom and democracy?

Sure, I get it's easier to pretend and focus on the make-believe fantasy that everyone who doesn't agree with you must be a Chinese agent, but, what if the truth is they ARE all Chinese agents, but they're right anyway, whatcha gonna do then, huh, pal?

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Then US shareholders need to be reminded of the fact that they are moral agents as well as financial ones. The reality is that while a "shareholder" title means you want dividends from your holdings, that title attaches to a real human being or entity run by human beings, and the moral or immoral consequences of your policy as shareholder DOES affect the world. It's time for shareholders to put their money where thei…

That could be a big conflict of interest though. What if the intelligent financial decision is not in line with your morals? I am all for people running away from investing in these companies, but in reality that is a conflicting request of an investor and not something anyone who is focusing on returns will have much patience for or interest in. I just don't think it's going to convince real investors.

Then you've identified the "real investors" who are exactly the class I'm talking about. If money is more important, and the cost to society less important, in their value system, they are as much a part of the problem as the actual perpetrators that they're paying.

A conflict of interest indicates that you have a choice between two goals. Choose money, and you've lost my respect. And business, when it comes down to that.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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specifically when he advocates for pedophilia

He did not do this and it's intellectually dishonest to claim that he did.

he did, but whatever to make yourself feel better

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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This is a very specific instance of a much more general problem. A lot of private companies control exclusive access to something with a value that dwarfs what you pay for it. I pay nothing for access to Twitter; if I build a business or a social life on the platform, it becomes something I would pay thousands of dollars to prevent losing. I pay nothing for access to Facebook; the memories they store at this point in…

Mostly playing devil's advocate here: When the Constitution was written, free speech meant literally that, your ability to go to a public space and physically talk. No third party was involved as it is with any telecommunication technology. So the resources consumed in that speech were totally your own. The only way to strictly have that equivalent in the telecommunications realm is for me to own every communication…

The US first amendment is against Congress abridging the press as well as freedom of speech.

In addition, Milton's 1644 Areopagitica is meant to be an inspiration for the first amendment, and it is all about the need for freedom of the press.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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This sort of flamebait isn't allowed here, and you've taken it to the point of trolling below. We ban accounts that do that on HN, so please don't. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190558 and marked it off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Where were I trolling?

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