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Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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Securing a single phone is a half measure at best, and your phone might get seized. Also, CBP, TSA and colleagues will do what they can to fuck you extra hard when sensing resistance to their ramming their noses up your cavities. The only true remedy is to get the US back on track with being a democracy and respecting the Constitution again.

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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land of the so-called free.

It's still, at least on paper, freer than many/most other Western countries in most ways AFAIK. I agree that this is a very absurd counterexample, however.

I find that people with lower incomes are free-er in other Western countries. They can go about their lives without worrying about healthcare, parents can bond and breastfeed for a year without stressing about work, families can go on vacations for multiple weeks, people aren’t as afraid of being abused or killed by police, etc.

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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It's still, at least on paper, freer than many/most other Western countries in most ways AFAIK. I agree that this is a very absurd counterexample, however.

Can you give a few examples of ways in which a US citizen is more free than I, a UK citizen, am?

I don’t think they said “more free than UK citizens”. Although, to be fair, US doesn’t have quite as intrusive CCTV. And I thought gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK? But “most ways” is probably a reach, and there are certainly things UK does do much better.

Edit: would appreciate feedback if my comment is not constructive or could be improved in some way.

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

#135

Securing a single phone is a half measure at best, and your phone might get seized. Also, CBP, TSA and colleagues will do what they can to fuck you extra hard when sensing resistance to their ramming their noses up your cavities. The only true remedy is to get the US back on track with being a democracy and respecting the Constitution again.

Is simply crossing a border a "reasonable" search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment? Is there a legal precedent for that?

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still, at least on paper, freer than many/most other Western countries in most ways AFAIK. I agree that this is a very absurd counterexample, however.

Can you give a few examples of ways in which a US citizen is more free than I, a UK citizen, am?

You can’t leave Europe, despite your voters voting twice for it, making the Brexit party the #1, and yet your establishment understood “Leave” as “Stay” and refuses to hold a general election because they know they are illegitimate and hold on to their power?

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give a few examples of ways in which a US citizen is more free than I, a UK citizen, am?

I don’t think they said “more free than UK citizens”. Although, to be fair, US doesn’t have quite as intrusive CCTV. And I thought gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK? But “most ways” is probably a reach, and there are certainly things UK does do much better. Edit: would appreciate feedback if my comment is not constructive or could be improved in some way.

For me as a European "gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK" for me means freedom more than access to guns does. I quite value the freedom of not having to worry about guns.

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still, at least on paper, freer than many/most other Western countries in most ways AFAIK. I agree that this is a very absurd counterexample, however.

I find that people with lower incomes are free-er in other Western countries. They can go about their lives without worrying about healthcare, parents can bond and breastfeed for a year without stressing about work, families can go on vacations for multiple weeks, people aren’t as afraid of being abused or killed by police, etc.

Not the freedom I mean. I would say that people with lower incomes have better lives in other Western countries, but that's not the freedom from the government (at least on paper but probably in practice as well) that I meant.

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think they said “more free than UK citizens”. Although, to be fair, US doesn’t have quite as intrusive CCTV. And I thought gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK? But “most ways” is probably a reach, and there are certainly things UK does do much better. Edit: would appreciate feedback if my comment is not constructive or could be improved in some way.

For me as a European "gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK" for me means freedom more than access to guns does. I quite value the freedom of not having to worry about guns.

That's a very convoluted definition of freedom. I think there are many other things to call that ("sensible" or "sane" come to mind...) but it's objectively less free, legally/on paper as I stated.

Re: Pair Locking Your iPhone

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If you want to look at it that way, the pairing record is just a digital token that lets you unlock (for reading, the data in) your phone. So it's effectively a kind of password then. It's like having an unlock password in a password manager on your laptop. I don't think it would fly to say at the border that "sorry, can't unlock for you because I don't know my password, it's in a password manager on my laptop".

What you say is "Sorry, I can't unsupervise that". If you wanted to lie, you could say "Sorry it is supervised by my company, I can't unsupervise it" Alternatively you could encrypt the key or whatever, give that to a friend on a USB stick. Then, at the border, you say "I can't unsupervise that, the keys are managed by a third party." Which is technically the truth... the best kind of truth.

They'll just find you are causing trouble and put you in the little room where you'll sit for a number of hours and learn to stop thinking you could pull stunts at the border. They don't really care why you can't show a normal phone with a history of a normal life. They just want to see a normal device with normal data. There is no scenario where a technicality means you don't hand over a device they can read and they go "oh, well if you can't you can't!".

Any of: no device, wiped device, locked device, is just seen as suspcicious and you'll be harrassed. Their whole idea is to make anything non-normal uncomfortable for you, so you'll comply (because most people do almost anything including giving up any data, to not have to fly back home or spend hours in a little room).

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