Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by hamandcheese » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:05 AM UTC

Why is this story already off the front page?

Currently 117 points in 1 hour, yet somehow behind “The Origin of the Foot Rail” with 39 points in 7 hours.

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by nneonneo » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:08 AM UTC

hamandcheese wrote: post #41

Why is this story already off the front page? Currently 117 points in 1 hour, yet somehow behind “The Origin of the Foot Rail” with 39 points in 7 hours.

If I had to guess, the mods are bending the scoring to avoid controversial topics again. They’ve done it before with US politics. Lately there’s been a slew of China news and some of the comments have been incredibly vitriolic.

I for one would support this - I like HN being a hacker’s paradise. People grousing over the latest insanity in world news can always find somewhere else to comment.

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by edvinasbartkus » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:08 AM UTC

When the app is removed from the App Store, does it mean that it disappears from all phones, or it means that the new sales of the app are not possible?

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by idlewords » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:09 AM UTC

Why has this story been spiked from the front page?

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by jdashg » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:09 AM UTC

imglorp wrote: post #19

headsupftw wrote: post #10

For AAPL, revenue from Mainland China is far greater than Hong Kong. I, as a shareholder with fewer than 100 shares, applaud Apple's decision on this issue.

At what point would shareholder value be considered blood money?

Right here, right now.

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by keiferski » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:10 AM UTC

kevingadd wrote: post #38

keiferski wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t cancel culture more or less the same thing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call-out_culture#Cancel_Cultur...

Cancel culture is not remotely related to Apple pulling a maps application off the app store. No one has been cancelled here, unless you count government suppression of speech as "cancel culture".

I don’t know, they seem relatively related. Both are actions / attempts to silence opposing ideas by putting pressure on businesses and consumers.

Calling for someone to be silenced (cancel culture) is closer to actual censorship than the classic “I disagree with what you say but will fight for your right to say it.”

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by rubatuga » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:11 AM UTC

hamandcheese wrote: post #41

Why is this story already off the front page? Currently 117 points in 1 hour, yet somehow behind “The Origin of the Foot Rail” with 39 points in 7 hours.

These articles are sent lower in the ranking because the mods feel they aren't very constructive

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by kbumsik » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:12 AM UTC

Hey Tim, courage is not only about removing a headphone jack.

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by epaga » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:12 AM UTC

hamandcheese wrote: post #41

Why is this story already off the front page? Currently 117 points in 1 hour, yet somehow behind “The Origin of the Foot Rail” with 39 points in 7 hours.

Probably 1. flagged by a number of Chinese users and 2. auto-detected as “controversial” which often are more noise than signal.

I hope this is manually set as an exception. This is an extremely important topic in the tech world and needs to be discussed.

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

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Post by rubatuga » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 5:13 AM UTC

Couldn't the maker of the app argue that this app is also used by people who want to avoid protests and violence? And that Apple is now directly hurting citizens by taking that protection away?