Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
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Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#2So sounds like we'll get level 4 autonomy in 2020. Once that happens the discussion around the nature of the approach to level 5 (which is probably asymptotic) will be a welcome change vs today where people are questioning if we'll ever have a consumer successfully use an autonomous vehicle.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#3So sounds like we'll get level 4 autonomy in 2020. Once that happens the discussion around the nature of the approach to level 5 (which is probably asymptotic) will be a welcome change vs today where people are questioning if we'll ever have a consumer successfully use an autonomous vehicle.
Even if the algorithms more-or-less know how to drive, the best algorithms will eventually be chosen by natural selection. I wouldn't want to be along for the ride during this process.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#4This sounds familiar. Here's an article from 2 years ago saying the same thing:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/7/16615290/waymo-self-drivi...
Hopefully this time it's the real deal. I remain skeptical.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#5So sounds like we'll get level 4 autonomy in 2020. Once that happens the discussion around the nature of the approach to level 5 (which is probably asymptotic) will be a welcome change vs today where people are questioning if we'll ever have a consumer successfully use an autonomous vehicle.
the 80/20 principle says it's going to be a long, long time before level 5 autonomy is reached. That's 100% in all conditions. In fact, I would say it's more theory than attainable.
There's a reason they're testing in Phoenix. It has almost no Inclement weather. Throw a little snow, mud, or sleet in there and it gets hairy fast. Level 2 is basically the 20% of effort in 80/20. It's exponential effort from then on out.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#6So sounds like we'll get level 4 autonomy in 2020. Once that happens the discussion around the nature of the approach to level 5 (which is probably asymptotic) will be a welcome change vs today where people are questioning if we'll ever have a consumer successfully use an autonomous vehicle.
Even if the algorithms more-or-less know how to drive, the best algorithms will eventually be chosen by natural selection. I wouldn't want to be along for the ride during this process.
Same with best uber drivers.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#7Waymo is so far ahead in this game. Tesla has the biggest online cheerleading section and an "autopilot" that behaves as a low-budget adaptive cruise control with lane keeping that sometimes works, and a pretty big body count. Uber has a dead pedestrian and a major lawsuit. Cruise has a lot of people on staff but virtually nothing to show for it. Lyft exists. Waymo is in production revenue service.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if the algorithms more-or-less know how to drive, the best algorithms will eventually be chosen by natural selection. I wouldn't want to be along for the ride during this process.
Same with best uber drivers.
Any human is the product of eons of natural selection honing our perception and reflexes. The process was unpleasant.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#9Waymo is so far ahead in this game. Tesla has the biggest online cheerleading section and an "autopilot" that behaves as a low-budget adaptive cruise control with lane keeping that sometimes works, and a pretty big body count. Uber has a dead pedestrian and a major lawsuit. Cruise has a lot of people on staff but virtually nothing to show for it. Lyft exists. Waymo is in production revenue service.
> Tesla has the biggest online cheerleading section and an "autopilot" that behaves as a low-budget adaptive cruise control with lane keeping that sometimes works, and a pretty big body count
I don't think you're being very accurate there. There are lots of videos of people commuting 50+ miles to and from work every day without touching anything while on the interstates, including interchanges. It's doing a lot more than just lane keeping.
Re: Waymo to customers: “Completely driverless Waymo cars are on the way”
#10This sounds familiar. Here's an article from 2 years ago saying the same thing: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/7/16615290/waymo-self-drivi... Hopefully this time it's the real deal. I remain skeptical.
The difference here is that now the "public paying customers" and "full self-driving" customer groups are merged - so this means there's genuinely a paid full self-driving service launched as of today! A miracle