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Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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Citation needed.

Are you under the impression that China can't break encryption?

Are you under the impression that China can break encryption? Not saying that it's 100% impossible, but that one certainly needs a citation.

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If Hong Kong becomes a Palestine-style cause celebre it will be bad for China. China is trapped. They are stuck with this democratic appendix attached to a communist body. China can't keep Hong Kong under a democratic system as they have zero understanding of democracy. But if they try to repress it they risk endangering China's relationships with the rest of the world. They made a mistake thinking they could transfo…

It's worth pointing out that today's China is communist in name only. They literally arrested the president of Peking University's Marxist society on ideological grounds: https://news.yahoo.com/china-arrests-marxist-student-leader-... China in 2019 is a simple fascist dictatorship. Edit: Fixed a broken link

This is commonly said.

Can you help me understand how Communism is distinct from Fascism?

It is my understanding Fascism was invented by disaffected Socialists and Marxists who felt the revolution was taking too long.

What is an example of a Communist country, or does every country that calls itself Communist fail the test?

And if every country fails the test, what precisely would be different about a true Communist country versus these pretend-Communist countries?

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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Now, a protest by "a dozen to 30" employees is unlikely to change Blizzard policy, even with the public backlash. While employees staging walkouts could actually hamper Blizzard's ability to make money, when each employee is individually up to the whims of the larger company, they may face negative repercussions and many, out of fear of reprisals, don't protest in the first place. That's why we need unions in the sof…

Sounds like a great time to 'accidentally' break production

Sounds like a great time to 'deliberately' get fired

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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The Internet's reaction to this has warmed my heart a little. Overwatch and Hearthstone are among my favorite computer games. I've certainly played more Overwatch than any other game. I have made real-world and online friends in Overwatch. I met my girlfriend in Overwatch. It made me sad to have to throw all that away yesterday. But the conversations we're having as a result of this is great. The mainstream media is…

One thing to note -- it's not really troubling for a country to have a lot of influence. It's troubling for China to have as much influence as it does when it's directly trying to undermine freedoms that we have fought tooth and nail and died a million lives to get in The West.

This is not a question of a foreign country being different. This is a question of a foreign company forcing us to slowly give up the very things we consider to make us human -- our freedoms -- in exchange for a couple extra bucks. The fact that companies are willing to do it is pathetic. And I'm glad that people are finally waking up to this.

Hong Kong is literally protesting to have the right to a trail by jury! How anyone in The West could not take their side is baffling to me. I wish I was a gamer so I could boycott Blizzard. But I am a basketball player, and I'll make sure to tell everyone I can to boycott the NBA until they make this right.

The protesters are not wrong. The CCP is antithetical to our way of life in The West. Apologist companies to The CCP -- in my view -- are a direct threat to my freedom as a human being.

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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Keep in mind its Activision-Blizzard, not just Blizzard. Even if you boycotted all Blizzard products, the call of duty series and candy crush would take the hit. Also, I don't think it would work period; if Blizzard made this a hill to die on, it's because the Chinese market must be growing and higher profit than the west. The people who pay set the rules.

BlizzCon is within a month. Express yourselves there, and vote with your wallet.

Please let there be massive protests about this at BlizzCon.

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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If Hong Kong becomes a Palestine-style cause celebre it will be bad for China. China is trapped. They are stuck with this democratic appendix attached to a communist body. China can't keep Hong Kong under a democratic system as they have zero understanding of democracy. But if they try to repress it they risk endangering China's relationships with the rest of the world. They made a mistake thinking they could transfo…

Hong Kong's entire value , as far as I can see [and I'm referring to the value of Hong Kong as a community including people and businesses, not just their geographic value], either as a place to live or to do business or to visit, comes from it being a SAR with its own government, culture, historical legacy, and lack of interference from its mother country. If it becomes a homogenized satellite of Shenzhen with sky h…

>Hong Kong's entire value, as far as I can see [...]

Keep in mind that that's the perspective you've been conditioned to see by the media you've consumed.

>If it becomes a homogenized satellite of Shenzhen with sky high real estate, which seems to be what China wants, what's left of Hong Kong?

Well, for one thing, the unstable political condition is likely to change the "sky high real estate" bit.

>I thought China was smarter than this. I thought they would realize the value of Hong Kong. Apparently China doesn't want Hong Kong.

Oh, please. They do want Hong Kong. They just want Hong Kong in a different way from how the rest of the world thinks Hong Kong is valuable to China.

>They want to remove the painful reminder of the Opium Wars and British influence in the Sinosphere.

The Anglosphere wants to remove the painful reminder of the Opium Wars. You seem to. China doesn't.

As for foreign influence in their own backyard, ever heard of NIMBY ("not in my back yard")?

>There will never be another place like it, and China is destroying it out of spite and ideological inflexibility.

Not quite. For one thing, Hong Kong has lost its lustre as "a place to live or to do business or to visit". Recent IMF data show that its GDP per capita is almost half that of Macau SAR:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/articl...

It's also fallen far behind as one of the world's busiest ports: Shenzhen now outranks it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_container_port...

It's not a matter of whether Hong Kong becomes "a homogenized satellite of Shenzhen", but when, because Hong Kong is already heading down that road.

What you, and other commentators, seem to fail to understand is that China absolutely wants Hong Kong, but not for it being an SAR. No. Reread Carrie Lam's leaked comments again:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-carriel...

>Lam noted, however, that she had few options once an issue had been elevated “to a national level,” a reference to the leadership in Beijing, “to a sort of sovereignty and security level, let alone in the midst of this sort of unprecedented tension between the two big economies in the world.”

This has now been elevated to an issue of national security for China. Do you know why?

Because the Hong Kong activists are now demanding independence.

Set aside the issue of self-determination for a minute. Suppose you are playing as China in this game of Civilization and a city that you've got back is doing this. How would you react?

Would you fold to the demands of Washington and Elizabeth?

Or would you look at South Korea? At Taiwan? At how Mongolia got away with the help of Catherine?

Notwithstanding the rhetoric around the Opium Wars, Hong Kong is strategically valuable -- and not simply economically valuable -- to China because it's located on the other side of the mouth of the Pearl River from Macau. It's literally a physical gatekeeper to Guangzhou. Have a look at the geographic reality:

https://www.google.com/maps/@22.4267643,113.6415031,9z

(China does have detailed economic plans for the region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_River_Delta_Economic_Zon...)

Which is why China would hold on to Hong Kong tightly, as tightly as it'd hold on to Tibet or Xinjiang. For strategic reasons.

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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Are you under the impression that China can't break encryption?

They don’t even need to- OP is massively mistaken. Apple gave China the encryption keys (and all other China-based iCloud infra) more than a year ago.

Citation needed.

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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It's worth pointing out that today's China is communist in name only. They literally arrested the president of Peking University's Marxist society on ideological grounds: https://news.yahoo.com/china-arrests-marxist-student-leader-... China in 2019 is a simple fascist dictatorship. Edit: Fixed a broken link

This is commonly said. Can you help me understand how Communism is distinct from Fascism? It is my understanding Fascism was invented by disaffected Socialists and Marxists who felt the revolution was taking too long. What is an example of a Communist country, or does every country that calls itself Communist fail the test? And if every country fails the test, what precisely would be different about a true Communist…

You need to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Soviet_Union

Contrast how the current Chinese economy is far closer to an average OECD economy to the USSRs economy.

Re: Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Banned Pro-Hong Kong Gamer

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post #58

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True, but Execs will gatekeep the final review and approval for larger responses and campaigns.

This shouldn’t be hard though. Execs shouldn’t think “we should maximize shareholder value while following the law”. Execs should think “what will I wish I had done when I’m 90”. Does it really hurt that much to tell your shareholders “we think it’s the right thing to stand up for democracy and human rights even if it means we are bennes from China and our profits are halved”.

> Execs should think “what will I wish I had done when I’m 90”

Probably "made enough money so I'm not tucked away in this low-rent retirement home with Nurse Ratched beating me when I don't eat my soup." ;)

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