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Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Epic is owned ~45% by Tencent. So I doubt this is going to be true.

There are several tweets specifically on this in the twitter thread: Tim Sweeney @TimSweeneyEpic 4h Replying to @CherrishChoerry @calibrono and 3 others > Epic is a US company and I’m the controlling shareholder. Tencent is an approximately 40% shareholder, and there are many other shareholders including employees and investors. Cherrish Choerry @CherrishChoerry 4h Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @calibrono and 3 others…

Of course the CEO would deny that it's a problem. He isn't necessarily being honest.

Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate? I've seen a lot of arguments along those lines, but none were willing to actually explain what it is exactly they're doing that is wrong.

For some reason Valve seems to have a lot of very rabid fans on Reddit, from many many years. Valve gets a free pass for showing annoying ads on every Steam update while being a paid service and also for their forced 30% cut and essentially being a monopoly. All the while barely improving the product for years while making billions from the cash cow. When I saw Epic was jumping into the fray I figured there'd be vici…

> while being a paid service

Steam is not a paid service.

I do think they should lower their 30% cut, though that is the industry standard.

Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate? I've seen a lot of arguments along those lines, but none were willing to actually explain what it is exactly they're doing that is wrong.

For some reason Valve seems to have a lot of very rabid fans on Reddit, from many many years. Valve gets a free pass for showing annoying ads on every Steam update while being a paid service and also for their forced 30% cut and essentially being a monopoly. All the while barely improving the product for years while making billions from the cash cow. When I saw Epic was jumping into the fray I figured there'd be vici…

On top of this, as I recall everyone hated steam when it came, that you had to have it running to launch Counter-Strike through steam. I know I found it very annoying. Now Steam is home to most people and they are angry over the next change.

Like the guy in the sibling comment defending 30% cut for a digital service like Steam, it is Stockholm syndrome, or just human nature :)

Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Why have the League of Legends announcers stopped saying the words "Hong Kong" in phrases such as the team "Honk Kong Attitude", and instead only say HKA? Does Tencent control the broadcast/streaming?

This is almost off topic, I dont think Epic CEO has much to do with this

Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Is that the same company that recently was in the news due to brutal workloads and work hours?

Most videogame companies are like that. It is definitely horrible, but the company's attitude toward its employees' work hours is unrelated to its attitude toward China.

Unless you take the view that human rights are human rights are human rights, and are universal. Being shitty to the humans you pay while paying lip service to some of the humans that pay you is an interesting and, from some angles, contradictory position to hold.

Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Talk is cheap when you’re not in a position where you have to prove you mean it. Just look at any number of comments here who seem to be praising Sweeney. I wish I was a CEO, seems to be an easy job when all you have to do is say the right words and people blindly eat it all up and believe you.

Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights

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Epic CEO says a lot of stuff he doesn’t mean or live up to.

Even if that is true, they are at least on the record now with a position and I do feel like that is important. I would hope to see other game companies make these statements as well.

Statements mean and accomplish nothing. I thought after decades of being fucked over and lied to by corporations, maybe the public would become a bit more suspicious of people like this, but I guess not.
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