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If they are worried about a song , it makes them look very weak indeed.
I feel weird about all the China outrage currently. Some of it feels very hypocritical. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/31...
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I doubt it. This is just, like, my opinion, man, but I think the Chinese would walk away from any company in the world in an instant if it suits their security needs. If their economic ministry is doing its job then they will have detailed contingency plans to address the loss of any of their major foreign benefactors, and if required those jobs can be replaced with state handouts, at least until the crisis passes. I…
China is never going to mess with Apple in any significant way. Not only would it be cutting off their nose to spite their face in terms of unemployment, it would immediately lead to capital flight out of China which they absolutely can't afford. It'd basically undermine the entire economic model that has led to China's rise out of poverty over the past 30-40 years. And Apple is such a high profile company that it wo…
That's an overstatement in my opinion. Can you provide an example where a high profile (tech) company caused an international incident?
Could be the case for companies with a national-security profile like energy or food industry, but the Chinese can live without iPhones and Apple, while feeling the bump, will move on.
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One man? If you are just trying to sound dramatic, sure. However, I'd urge that you go and actually read more about how CCP works and the actual reaction of Chinese people on Weibo and other Chinese social media. The reaction to NBA and Hong Kong is not merely the government's manipulation, tho I'm sure there are some being done. When people see the news and make a judgement, it's often times the judgement the media…
> the actual reaction of Chinese people on Weibo and other Chinese social media Why do you think those people react that way? Nobody is born with an opinion. What politics they were exposed to growing up? What did the schools teach them? What behaviour did the government punish, what did it allow? Which information sources where they given access to? Are the "actual Chinese people" who disagree with the party allowed…
Things aren't as black and white as people make it out to be.
Now, I'll tell you I'm Chinese, but I've been in the US for almost ten years now. I've seen perspectives from both sides and the truth is far from what western media tells you. The unfortunate problem is the language barrier. Many people in English speaking countries cannot read Chinese, thus relying on "Chinese experts" for their opinions, without realizing many of the so-called experts themselves cannot speak Chinese.
I tell you that I don't support the Hong Kong protest, this is not posted on Weibo or any Chinese social media. This is my own feeling and judgement. It's sad I even need to make this disclaimer. Now you have this one data point from me as a Chinese citizen, if that's worth anything.
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There is a big difference. US is not gonna ban Google or Waze. China might actually ban Apple tomorrow. There are no courts to appeal. There is no retort. Just the decision of one man.
One man? If you are just trying to sound dramatic, sure. However, I'd urge that you go and actually read more about how CCP works and the actual reaction of Chinese people on Weibo and other Chinese social media. The reaction to NBA and Hong Kong is not merely the government's manipulation, tho I'm sure there are some being done. When people see the news and make a judgement, it's often times the judgement the media…
That isn't the actual reaction of Chinese people, that's the reaction that the Chinese social media companies permit to be displayed. Do you think that a post supporting the Hong Kong protesters would be permitted by the censors?
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Been an Android users since the first Android phone (HTC G1), before that I was on Windows Mobile. If Apple opened things up I would switch in a heartbeat. I doubt it will happen though.
I could never trust Apple given their track record. Plus, their hardware is overpriced for what you get. I genuinely have a hard time understanding the appeal. It seems to have the Gucci brand name, maybe integrations but I don't feel this is lacking on Android, and maybe privacy but I don't trust Apple for privacy.
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> the actual reaction of Chinese people on Weibo and other Chinese social media People are censored and punished for disagreeing with their government and its dictator-for-life.
Do you think I'm censored by posting in HN? Do you believe I'm a wumao? I'm here speaking out of my own free will. I'm in the US and I don't agree with a lot of what CCP has done, but in terms on NBA and Hong Kong issues, I can see the reason why Chinese people feel differently from Americans, and I sometimes feel the same.
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Sorry if this sounds rude, but why does it matter if HK was more or less democratic before 1991? The protesters are not asking for a return to British rule. In the same vein, the United States is vastly more democratic than it was a 100 years ago. That does not mean the democratic process does not need additional improvement; there are critical things worth protesting today.
The unfortunate part is not WHAT the protesters are asking, it is about HOW the protesters are asking. For those who were only watching from the western mainstream media, you are missing out on some footage of the whole picture. E.g) You may have seen police beating up protesters, but you were not told that police were beaten by surprise from behind. You may have seen police fire warning shot with lethal weapon, but…
Weird. Yesterday, people on here were accusing Apple of bowing to the Chinese for this exact same app.
It's not weird. Apple reversed their decision and allowed the app on the App Store. Now they are facing veiled threats from Chinese state media for doing the right thing.
It got through the approval process recently.
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If I were Tim Cook I'd be real worried about being shut out of my own supply chain right about now. Didn't Apple start ramping up iPhone production in India recently? I agree that China is likely to retaliate but I imagine whatever decision making process there was for approving this HK app involved plenty of lawyers and analysis of potential fallout.
Not at any particular scale -- just enough to avoid import tariffs and keep the local politicians happy. The same thing that you see in the US for military contracts. Apple is also paying lip service to "manufacturing in the US" by manufacturing the low volume, high margin Mac Pros. Not meant to be a value judgement, knowing how to placate politicians is necessary when you operate at scale.
My understanding is that the Indian built phones were destined for the EU market which isn't engaged in a trade war with India or China.
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China is never going to mess with Apple in any significant way. Not only would it be cutting off their nose to spite their face in terms of unemployment, it would immediately lead to capital flight out of China which they absolutely can't afford. It'd basically undermine the entire economic model that has led to China's rise out of poverty over the past 30-40 years. And Apple is such a high profile company that it wo…
> And Apple is such a high profile company that it would likely cause an international incident. That's an overstatement in my opinion. Can you provide an example where a high profile (tech) company caused an international incident? Could be the case for companies with a national-security profile like energy or food industry, but the Chinese can live without iPhones and Apple, while feeling the bump, will move on.
If this extremely unlikely event happened the US government isn't going to ignore it.