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Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by secraetomani »

heyyyouu wrote: post #35

What is really interesting about this is how completely and utterly horrible a job Blizzard did in anticipating and preparing this very obvious possibility, and thus is so poorly handling every single aspect of this.This so obviously was likely to happen that it easily could have been anticipated and planned for to be dealt with in a much, much more professional way, and yet clearly they didn't, and it's beyond inexc…

These kind of decisions are made by a 5th level middle manager, not by the CEO or the PR department.

Just like when the Delta flight crew forcefully removed that doctor from the airplane. Or a Starbucks employee calling the police on black people waiting there.

By the time PR get's involved, it's too late.

This is one crucial vulnerability of many companies in today's world, any low level employee can generate a huge PR disaster by just not being smart enough to see the bigger picture.

So basically today you need every employee to be trained like a world class PR agent.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by godot »

tptacek wrote: post #313
godot wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being downvoted (and rightfully, I believe), but you do sound genuine (so far at least), so let me speak a little bit more and hope your mind might change even just a little bit. First, as pvg said, a massive protest is not analogous to 9/11. But, let's put even that aside for a moment, and pretend that they are analogous. The more proper analogy is this: Pretend that after 9/11, a Malaysian singer working for…

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Edited, thanks

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by celticmusic »

spathi_fwiffo wrote: post #282
celticmusic wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest clue that you're involved in a strawman is your quoting a part of the other poster that I didn't quote and applying it to my response.

Fine, I'll be more specific about my problem with your statement: To me, it sounded like you were judging the previous poster as if he was making a moral defense of Blizzard/EAs actions. While skipping the section of his email where he alluded to their actions being immoral -- thus doing the same thing to them that you are claiming I did to you.

The comment I quoted mirrors a very common sentiment a segment of the population uses to defend their shitty behavior, and I was pointing out that this sentiment only truly makes sense to those who have nothing inoffensive to say.

Whether that applies to the poster in question or not, I couldn't tell you.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by 556343throwaway »

Knufen wrote: post #5

It is scary to see how much more China and the CCP can get away with, I'm looking forward to seeing where it will all end up. Probably not in a good place. Money talks, morals? Not so much.

I would bet their wish would be to have the power to sanction a country and then forbid any other country from doing business with them.

Even going as far as being able to arrest foreign executives that break those sanctions.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by bena »

greggman2 wrote: post #78

I'm mixed on this. I'm 100% for Chung “Blitzchung” Ng Wai to express his support for Hong Kong. I'm not so sure it's okay for him to do it on Blizzard's show/event. 27 years ago Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live when it was broadcast live. She's was arguably right to critize the Pope but was she right to do it from Saturday Night Live's Live broadcast? IIRC because of that inciden…

Every Saturday, Lorne Michaels picks an older episode of SNL and it is run alongside the live broadcast. In the event of something catastrophic that would stop the show, like a performer dying, the feed will switch from the live broadcast to the older episode.

Only tangentially related, but morbidly fascinating.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by 556343throwaway »

zanny wrote: post #236
greggman2 wrote: post #78

I'm mixed on this. I'm 100% for Chung “Blitzchung” Ng Wai to express his support for Hong Kong. I'm not so sure it's okay for him to do it on Blizzard's show/event. 27 years ago Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live when it was broadcast live. She's was arguably right to critize the Pope but was she right to do it from Saturday Night Live's Live broadcast? IIRC because of that inciden…

> I'm not so sure it's okay I'm not sure its okay for China to be maiming and killing protestors while trying to subjugate a city under tyranny, The reality is that there are not okay things out there, and people often feel helpless against them, and will do things others will feel is not okay to try to get their message across when they feel the okay way isn't working. And as a global people we should support those…

There hasn’t been a single death in Hong Kong.

The same can’t be said about the current protests in Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, and Kashmir.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by 556343throwaway »

f-securus wrote: post #49
Analemma_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NBA at least seems to be walking back their initial condemnation of Morey's comments, China be damned: [0]. We should give them credit for that. Conversely, there's been radio silence from Blizzard so far. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/sports/adam-silver-nba-ch...

But they ejected fans that had HK posters?

Because those fans were causing a disruption, not because of their message.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by trophycase »

macspoofing wrote: post #10

I don't think it should be an international incident. The reality is that corporations shouldn't be espousing political viewpoints, and nobody should care what their opinion is on controversial policies. They make and sell products and that's all they should stick too. Why should Blizzard get in the middle of what's happening between China and Hong Kong? And to be clear, it isn't just Chinese government versus Hong K…

Maybe you're right, but everyone loves to feel all good and fuzzy inside when they make PC character design (see Overwatch) to cater to the reddit crowd. So if people are allowed to celebrate their obvious co-opting of identity politics, maybe we can be angry when they do something politically idiotic.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Post by KineticLensman »

secraetomani wrote: post #331
heyyyouu wrote: post #35

What is really interesting about this is how completely and utterly horrible a job Blizzard did in anticipating and preparing this very obvious possibility, and thus is so poorly handling every single aspect of this.This so obviously was likely to happen that it easily could have been anticipated and planned for to be dealt with in a much, much more professional way, and yet clearly they didn't, and it's beyond inexc…

These kind of decisions are made by a 5th level middle manager, not by the CEO or the PR department. Just like when the Delta flight crew forcefully removed that doctor from the airplane. Or a Starbucks employee calling the police on black people waiting there. By the time PR get's involved, it's too late. This is one crucial vulnerability of many companies in today's world, any low level employee can generate a huge…

> any low level employee can generate a huge PR disaster by just not being smart enough to see the bigger picture

The military of many countries recognise this, recognising the concept of the 'strategic corporals' [0] [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Block_War

[1] https://thediplomat.com/2012/03/the-strategic-corporals-evil...

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