Epic CEO says a lot of stuff he doesn’t mean or live up to.
There's a real risk for just saying something at this point. Thus lip-service like this is itself more than "just lip service".
Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate?
"Microsoft wants to monopolise games development on PC. We must fight it" by Tim Sweeney in 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft... 3 years later ends up buying out indie games and puts them behind exclusivity on the Epic Store On Linux gaming "The real enemy of Linux are these trolls who try to overrun social media channels to make claims in bad faith and attempt to harass developers int…
This is really disingenuous. You're removing context, cherry picking and inserting your own context to create a false narrative. Why?
Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate?
"Microsoft wants to monopolise games development on PC. We must fight it" by Tim Sweeney in 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft... 3 years later ends up buying out indie games and puts them behind exclusivity on the Epic Store On Linux gaming "The real enemy of Linux are these trolls who try to overrun social media channels to make claims in bad faith and attempt to harass developers int…
Those last two quotes sound consistent to me. If Valve could operate on a 12% cut without exclusives, that would prove him was wrong that it's impossible, thus he would change his position if they did so.
Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
#24Is that the same company that recently was in the news due to brutal workloads and work hours?
Yes but that is orthogonal to this
Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
#25Epic is owned ~45% by Tencent. So I doubt this is going to be true.
There are several tweets specifically on this in the twitter thread:
Tim Sweeney @TimSweeneyEpic 4h
Replying to @CherrishChoerry @calibrono and 3 others
> Epic is a US company and I’m the controlling shareholder. Tencent is an approximately 40% shareholder, and there are many other shareholders including employees and investors.
Cherrish Choerry @CherrishChoerry 4h
Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @calibrono and 3 others
> 40% is a big cut though. They’re already apparently pulling out of the NBA League. Can you honestly say if a similar event happened you wouldn’t have to, sever ties with said influential figure, i.e the NBA coach/Hearthstone Champ
Tim Sweeney @TimSweeneyEpic
Replying to @CherrishChoerry @calibrono and 3 others
> Yes, absolutely. That will never happen on my watch as the founder, CEO, and controlling shareholder.
7:55 AM - 9 Oct 2019
Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
#26Tencent bought 40% of Epic Games at some point: what's different between Blizzard and Epic's relationship - is it, as the CEO said, he is the controlling shareholder? As many gamers are saying however, him stating this, because Tencent will profit from their ownership of Epic - they will boycott Epic's games as well.
Well imho "Blizzard" is Blizzard in name only, really it is Activision now. Again, imho, "Blizzard" is only interested in squeezing every last bit of profit it can and will stop at nothing to do so. To be fair, "Blizzard" probably isn't breaking any rules, but it isn't exactly acting with total integrity. A great example is the way "Blizzard" structures its business affairs in the EU so as to avoid paying taxes in the countries it makes revenue in. Bear in mind I say this with despair as a former Blizzard fanboy.
As for Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney, he isn't without controversy but the guy is a billionaire and I'm willing to bet that in his mind, he sees Epic Games as an extension of himself. He must feel strongly enough to take such a public stance at the risk of angering his Chinese shareholders and future business in China.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be specific, Riot Games sold the full 100% to Tencent. Tencent owns partial shares in a lot of companies; when it comes to Riot Games / League of Legends, that percentage is the full 100.
Thanks for correcting me. I see my mistake now. Tencent controls 40% of Epic. Tencent controls 100% of Riot/League of Legends. Epic has no control over Riot/League of Legends.
Tencent controls 100% of Riot/League of Legends
As Matt Levine observes, an American company can simply ignore its foreign owner if necessary https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-02-01/citgo-...
Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Microsoft wants to monopolise games development on PC. We must fight it" by Tim Sweeney in 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft... 3 years later ends up buying out indie games and puts them behind exclusivity on the Epic Store On Linux gaming "The real enemy of Linux are these trolls who try to overrun social media channels to make claims in bad faith and attempt to harass developers int…
This is really disingenuous. You're removing context, cherry picking and inserting your own context to create a false narrative. Why?
It's popular to hate Sweeney and Epic within the gaming community at the moment.
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#29Re: Epic CEO says it won't ban Fortnite players for taking a stance on human rights
#30Tencent bought 40% of Epic Games at some point: what's different between Blizzard and Epic's relationship - is it, as the CEO said, he is the controlling shareholder? As many gamers are saying however, him stating this, because Tencent will profit from their ownership of Epic - they will boycott Epic's games as well.
I'd imagine the ones who are going to boycott Epic games have been doing so already over the launcher/store. I don't see this event adding more to the heap. Personally, I'm not one of these people, but I have refused to buy products for random reasons too so to each their own. If anything, I'm kind of shocked he's jumping out ahead of an event happening to Epic Games of a player protesting on behalf of Hong Kong and…
Well... we also don't know what HAS happened already, behind closed doors. Maybe there has already been an "order" from Tencent regarding this case. And maybe Tim already stood up, but couldn't say anything - this would have been the right moment, so maybe he just used it.