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Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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https://www.quora.com/Was-Hong-Kong-more-democratic-under-Br...

ps: I truly believe most of people here talking about Hong Kong have no idea how Hong Kong works before and after CCP. I found it both sad and amusing, but often time I found myself stupid when posting on the Internet. But anyhow, the facts should be delivered.

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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post #7

Western companies have been bending blatantly a little too low to save assets and market shares in China. With trade war, human rights abuse in Xinjiang, and Hong Kong protest, this is probably a good chance for the West to stand against China's invasion.

It is not just a Chinese event though: https://www.cnet.com/news/cameron-considers-blocking-twitter... http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/08/11/london.r... https://www.smh.com.au/technology/london-riot-social-media-b...

Classic whataboutism. Your 1 event is nowhere near equitable to what is going on in China, but even if it was, so what, now the world must endure unlimited pain, because 1 time 1 person tried to? It's a dumb argument, as are all Whataboutism arguments, time to pick at least a different logical fallacy.

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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post #5

Apple will most likely be fine because it's unlike any other western company operating in China in that it employs a lot of people assembling their products. It's not in the CCP's interest for people to boycott Apple in a nationalist fervor only for unemployment to rise, which would be an existential threat to the CCP if they lost control of.

Wouldn't a rival phone/computer be also assembled in China ?

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

#64

That didn’t take long. NBA, American Airlines, Blizzard, Marriot.. the list grows. Soon they will have to ban rest of the 6 billion people.

I wonder how much of this is because they know there is going to be a crash soon and need to consolidate power and control the narrative internally before it happens

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

#65

https://www.quora.com/Was-Hong-Kong-more-democratic-under-Br... ps: I truly believe most of people here talking about Hong Kong have no idea how Hong Kong works before and after CCP. I found it both sad and amusing, but often time I found myself stupid when posting on the Internet. But anyhow, the facts should be delivered.

Sorry if this sounds rude, but why does it matter if HK was more or less democratic before 1991? The protesters are not asking for a return to British rule.

In the same vein, the United States is vastly more democratic than it was a 100 years ago. That does not mean the democratic process does not need additional improvement; there are critical things worth protesting today.

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Title is kinda misleading. A more accurate but longer one is like 'China state media journalist accused Apple approving app that aid violent protesters from evading police"

Which similarly, it also happens on the other part of the world? E.g) US? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/nyregion/waze-nypd-locati... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/01/28/382013185...

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I googled and saw that there's 4.8 Million apple employees in China? More than i expected when I started the Google search. With that said, is that enough for China to care at all? a little? a lot? Meaning, I wouldn't be surprised if China would forgo plenty of jobs from Western companies as their economy matures. Especially if China fully boycotted Apple, I doubt many other US Companies would respond at all Many…

> if China fully boycotted Apple They'd seize the factories and continue production, at least for the medium term. It makes no sense economically, but it keeps Xi in power. To Beijing, the factories are valuable for (a) IP and (b) jobs. Apple walking deprives China of (a), but not (b), not in the short term.

Good luck producing iPhones without the chips, which are not made in China and have at most a few weeks worth of stock, I'd guess.

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if China fully boycotted Apple They'd seize the factories and continue production, at least for the medium term. It makes no sense economically, but it keeps Xi in power. To Beijing, the factories are valuable for (a) IP and (b) jobs. Apple walking deprives China of (a), but not (b), not in the short term.

This is an interesting thought, because most Apple products are essentially bricked without software activation. And Apple has gone to great lengths to make it impossible to circumvent. Sure, they could produce cheap clones running Android but China already does that.

> most Apple products are essentially bricked without software activation

In the near-term, expropriation would stave off job losses. (In the cities, amidst highly-skilled workers no less.) In the medium term, production lines could be adapted to make non-bricked products.

Long story short, the threat of massive job losses to China is minimal--Apple has limited leverage over Beijing.

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