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Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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> The reality is that corporations shouldn't be espousing political viewpoints But they MUST. That’s the issue. There is no such thing as remaining neutral. What could they do? Ban the player to make China happy? Now the west is mad and boycotting. NOT ban the player? Now China is pissed and kicking you out of the country. They were damned by someone either way. There was no neutral political stance they could take.…

>But they MUST. That’s the issue. Then what is the right answer? HK independence? >There is no such thing as remaining neutral. Of course there is! What does it mean to NOT remain neutral? What position should a corporation take and which controversial topics? How about the IOC? Or FIFA? Or some charity? Or the EU? I don't see European nations, for example, taking any steps to challenge China. I don't see the public…

> Ban the player not to make China happy but because he brought politics into a neutral sporting event

It's a stage where people express themselves.

They are there because they won the competition and earned that position on that stage.

If people couldn't earn that stage and that kind of exposure, they would not play games professionally.

Forcing people to be neutral about politics is not neutral.

> The same thing that NFL and NBA did with players kneeling during the anthem because it pissed off half their fanbase.

They took a stance against a legit position, therefore becoming politically active in the situation, therefore pissing off the black community, the neutral viewers, the minority of already pissed off that expected more radical punishments and in the end they are losers in the game.

There are way more people pissed at NBA/NFL in general than people pissed off by players kneeling.

The only way to be really neutral is support every instance: you want to kneel? it's ok! You don't want to? it's ok!

People are pissed? they would be anyway! It's what they do, they would not be staring a 70 inches TV alone if they had a life!

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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The NBA said "the person can say what he wants on Twitter, even if we don't like it". Blizzard banned the player for a year, took his earnings from the tournament, and fired the casters that were interviewing him. Of course there's nary a peep about Blizzard.

However the case may be though, it's clear that the actors here are the "Weibo Outrage Machine", the NBA, and Blizzard. Which should be more concerning than Chinese government censorship. These outrage machines are are proving themselves at once more powerful than governments and less controllable.

I'm not sure I'd agree with your assumption that "outrage machines" are wholly unconnected/uncontrolled by governments. We know governments have used bots on Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit to stir controversy, why would Weibo be any different?

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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post #57

Another incident: A fan at a 76ers game was escorted out after shouting "free Hong Kong" before a game against a CBA team in Philadelphia yesterday. https://twitter.com/Christie_Ileto/status/118177972224357580...

Were they escorted out because of what they were saying, or were they escorted out for being annoying and disrupting the game?

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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I'm mixed on this. I'm 100% for Chung “Blitzchung” Ng Wai to express his support for Hong Kong. I'm not so sure it's okay for him to do it on Blizzard's show/event. 27 years ago Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live when it was broadcast live. She's was arguably right to critize the Pope but was she right to do it from Saturday Night Live's Live broadcast? IIRC because of that inciden…

IIRC because of that incident SNL added a 5 or 10 second delay so they'd have time to cut if something similar happened again.

A comedy show is in business for fifty years, and the only off-color appearance was a musician with a political opinion? As if we ever needed a demonstration of how bland and conventional SNL really is, regardless of the image they would like to convey.

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What is really interesting about this is how completely and utterly horrible a job Blizzard did in anticipating and preparing this very obvious possibility, and thus is so poorly handling every single aspect of this.This so obviously was likely to happen that it easily could have been anticipated and planned for to be dealt with in a much, much more professional way, and yet clearly they didn't, and it's beyond inexc…

Blizzard has been on a downward spiral for years. They still have awesome teams releasing and maintaining awesome games, (thank you for custom colors in SC Remastered!), but by and large their direction has been towards EA and away from their true fans.

This is because their name is not Blizzard. Their legacy is Blizzard. Their name is Activision Blizzard. They are actively opposed to players' interests in many ways, like lootboxes which many countries seek to outlaw for teaching children to gamble, always-online DRM etc.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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post #57

Another incident: A fan at a 76ers game was escorted out after shouting "free Hong Kong" before a game against a CBA team in Philadelphia yesterday. https://twitter.com/Christie_Ileto/status/118177972224357580...

It would be interesting what wpukd happen if people on NBA games started wearing FreeHK shirts. Would they be ejected during game? That would really mean that china effectively censors US citizens. Also what would happen if crowd pulled HK support en masse, escort out everyone?

We may see in a few weeks: https://www.gofundme.com/f/free-hong-kong-tshirts-on-nba-ope...

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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post #143

It's almost as though we need a president interested in some kind of trade...conflict with China. If only we had one of those.

I hate Trump for a lot of reasons, but I support his way of dealing with China.

From above:

A broken clock is right twice a day

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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post #47

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Unconstitutional? Like, did you try to read first amendment? Here it is: > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. So, did Congress of the USA have to do anything about it? No, "free spee…

It is illegal for a company to punish an employee for political demonstrations.

That varies on a state-by-state basis. Even in states like California where it's illegal to discriminate based on political beliefs or activities, there's still some wiggle room for a company to fire someone if their activities make the company look bad or make someone's coworkers feel uncomfortable.
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