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China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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This would be a great time for Apple to start allowing users to install apps manually.

Been an Android users since the first Android phone (HTC G1), before that I was on Windows Mobile. If Apple opened things up I would switch in a heartbeat. I doubt it will happen though.

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Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Jeez they even tried to get a song removed from Apple Music? I wonder how much other stuff China was able to suppress without anyone noticing.

If they are worried about a song , it makes them look very weak indeed.

Please allow me to direct your attention to this small event in Chinese history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

If looking weak to Westerners was ever on CCP's priority list, it couldn't have been anywhere high.

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So I googled and saw that there's 4.8 Million apple employees in China? More than i expected when I started the Google search. With that said, is that enough for China to care at all? a little? a lot? Meaning, I wouldn't be surprised if China would forgo plenty of jobs from Western companies as their economy matures. Especially if China fully boycotted Apple, I doubt many other US Companies would respond at all Many…

Is that number direct employee's or does that include MFG/Suppliers etc? Either way, 4.8 million people + friends/family, being angry is not a small number. China's population is ~1.3 billion according to CIA world fact book. So it's certainly less than 1% of the population, but not insignificant.

I'd say it's significant because those are the people "awake". Most of the population are poor country-side folks who couldn't revolt in any meaningful way.

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This would be a great time for Apple to start allowing users to install apps manually.

you can also have up to 10,000 TestFlight users now i believe...

Still has to be reviewed by apple before submitting to Beta Testers.

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Apple will most likely be fine because it's unlike any other western company operating in China in that it employs a lot of people assembling their products. It's not in the CCP's interest for people to boycott Apple in a nationalist fervor only for unemployment to rise, which would be an existential threat to the CCP if they lost control of.

So I googled and saw that there's 4.8 Million apple employees in China? More than i expected when I started the Google search. With that said, is that enough for China to care at all? a little? a lot? Meaning, I wouldn't be surprised if China would forgo plenty of jobs from Western companies as their economy matures. Especially if China fully boycotted Apple, I doubt many other US Companies would respond at all Many…

Guess it depends on how spread out or concentrated they are geographically. If concentrated it would have greater impact on a region.

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The China market is often framed as a mortal necessity for companies that have no more room to grow stateside. What we forget is that this assumes infinite corporate growth, which is literally impossible, despite being demanded by shareholders. We need to drop this notion that every single year has to result in growth. Corporations no longer have the option of settling into a market segment and developing a harmoniou…

That's absolutely right.

The toxic and relentless push for infinite growth pairs really well with the dreamy promise of infinite untapped market potential in China.

I really wish even the greediest of investors and shareholders in general to finally wake up that this dream will never materialise. Even if you get to China you'll quickly find out there are a lot of strings attached if you want your "infinite growth" -- and it definitely will be a lot less than you thought.

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Apple will most likely be fine because it's unlike any other western company operating in China in that it employs a lot of people assembling their products. It's not in the CCP's interest for people to boycott Apple in a nationalist fervor only for unemployment to rise, which would be an existential threat to the CCP if they lost control of.

Except everyone assembles phones in China. A dip for Apple is Huawei's gain, and they're entirely based in China.

People buy devices cheaper than the iPhone either because they cannot afford it or because they disagree with Apple somewhere.

First group doesn't really have a choice and the second group has no interest in an iPhone.

Re: China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they are worried about a song , it makes them look very weak indeed.

a movie started a democratic movement that ended in Tiananmen massacre so yeah.

What movie is that?
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