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NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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China presents a huge opportunity for growth to the NBA, and this is a really crucial period for them as it seems like the NFL's stranglehold might be weakening and extra money to reinvest might help that process. I don't understand how people can act like losing the Chinese market is some sort of trivial decision?!? I would love for the NBA to stand up to China on this issue, but it IS NOT AN EASY OR OBVIOUS DECISIO…

Easy morally, hard economically.

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#142

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Exactly this. They have no claim of neutrality or being apolitical. They have already demonstrated that losing money for the sake of attacking lgbt rights is a sacrifice they're willing to make. The values of team owners and major nba stakeholders are already more in line with the ccp than the american public, so let them choke on our scorn. It's our collective responsibility to do them enough financial damage that t…

I’ll expand on this by pulling two sequential quotations in the article from NBA commissioner Adam Silver: "It is inevitable that people around the world -- including America and China -- will have different viewpoints over different issues. It is not the role of the NBA to adjudicate those differences.” Bullshit, see North Carolina. “However, the NBA will not put itself in a position of regulating what players, empl…

I agree with your callout of the NBA's blatant hypocrisy on adjudicating political issues, but Donald Sterling's comments were definitely not a good faith contribution regarding an issue of public contention.

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#143

The NBA boycotted North Carolina over HB2 (the “bathroom bill”), but doesn’t have a problem doing business in China. I hope they go bankrupt.

They did one thing right but did another thing wrong. Is that worse than doing two things wrong?

Is someone claiming that it is?

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

#144
Sometimes in trade and negotiations the most powerful tool is being able to walk away. Relative to the PRC, it is past time that we start walking away. There are certainly other partners available on the metaphorical dance card who are easier to deal with.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did one thing right but did another thing wrong. Is that worse than doing two things wrong?

Is someone claiming that it is?

i_am_nomad is. If the NBA didn't do anything in North Carolina, he wouldn't have a problem. If his issue were purely about how they dealt with China, the NBA's actions in North Carolina are not related. He says they should go bankrupt because they took action in one instance but not in the other.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

#146

It's not much of a dilemma though, is it? Already-rich folks kowtowing to fascists for a quick buck is beyond pathetic. US companies should stop targeting China for growth. If they don't steal your IP completely, they'll eventually freeze you out like they just did the NBA. It's happened to many companies and will eventually happen to you too. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

maybe they re also doing it because of usa doing it to huawei???

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

#147
Is it just me, or are there a lot of stories now about China throwing its financial weight around to influence speech?

We had the Blizzard/War of Omens thing [1], and the Houston Rockets remark being rescinded [2], and the South Park cancellation [3], and now this, all in the span of about a week.

[1] https://www.cnet.com/news/blizzard-removes-blitzchung-from-h...

[2] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/houston-rockets-gm-morey-del...

[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dek3kl/south_par...

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

#148

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We need to adopt an economic system that doesn't prize currency above human dignity.

So we should be like the Chinese and prize power over human dignity instead?

False dilemma much?

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

#149
post #128

What if this blows up in the other direction ? How many Chinese will pay attention to "whatever those people are doing in Hong Kong" for the first time because of this ? Which is to say, what if lots of young Chinese stand up and take notice that they can't watch world class professional basketball anymore ? I am well aware that there is homegrown professional basketball in China, but the $4B number suggests they wan…

Its curious how could you pitch the cancellation of these NBA games to the audience expecting to watch these NBA games without causing a Streisand effect [1]? If you mention the tweet, will they want to seek out and find the tweet?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

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