US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules • Hacker News Board

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

eaandkw wrote: post #10

The only thing that is going to stop this is when these companies start losing money. They would sell their first born if they thought it would increase their stock prices. I would boycott these companies but to be honest I don't have any accounts with them in the first place and I am actively closing accounts and reducing my presents on the internet.

Call your elected leaders.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by krilly » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 4:57 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #5

I remember when news used to tell you about things that did happen instead of things that might happen. Until a company actually does this, this is just clickbait speculation.

Well, no. All this recent controversy stems from the recent NBA incident.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by kovek » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

ourlordcaffeine wrote: post #6

Name and shame companies who bow to Chinese censors https://github.com/caffeine-overload/bandinchina (Repo named after south park episode)

I think you might be the owner of the repo so I'd suggest here instead of there.

I think this could be a wikipedia page, and sources could be added.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by smsm42 » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #5

I remember when news used to tell you about things that did happen instead of things that might happen. Until a company actually does this, this is just clickbait speculation.

That's like saying "until US president is elected, talking about elections is a clickbait speculation". Policies are born out of speculation about the future, and public speculation (aka debate) about what is going to happen can influence them. We see evidence (NBA, Blizzard, Apple, Mariott, Gap, etc.) of US companies prostrating themselves before Chinese censorship. It is reasonable to discuss this phenomena and speculate what policy change it may bring in.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by r00fus » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #5

I remember when news used to tell you about things that did happen instead of things that might happen. Until a company actually does this, this is just clickbait speculation.

Does Blizzard's muzzling/suspension of a Hearthstone tournament player count? Sure, the player isn't an employee, but essentially earns money by playing.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190265

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by whateveracct » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 5:01 PM UTC

Protections from government influence on free speech is a fundamental American cultural value. Just because it's a foreign government doesn't mean we shouldn't continue to abide by that value.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by yifanl » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #15

imgabe wrote: post #5

I remember when news used to tell you about things that did happen instead of things that might happen. Until a company actually does this, this is just clickbait speculation.

Does Blizzard's muzzling/suspension of a Hearthstone tournament player count? Sure, the player isn't an employee, but essentially earns money by playing. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190265

I think a caster was canned as well, which I'd definitely qualify as an employee.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by Grimm1 » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

They can bite me as well. This a foreign nation exerting its will over our politics via economic control. The govt should make strides to curb this imo.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by mfer » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

Before we were voicing everything on the Internet there was both a separation between professional lives and private lives and far more localized communities that had lower interaction with each other.

With the way many are using the Internet is blurs or removes the lines between private and public along with removing regional group barriers.

So, I used to be able to run my mouth locally on some topic and have no work or global repercussions. Now, you do that on the Internet, it could be seen be people thousands of miles away, and it could impact ones career.

It's not just technology but how we choose to use it and guide others to do so as well.

Re: US workers may have to change social media use as firms adapt to China's rules

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Post by imgabe » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 5:06 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #15

imgabe wrote: post #5

I remember when news used to tell you about things that did happen instead of things that might happen. Until a company actually does this, this is just clickbait speculation.

Does Blizzard's muzzling/suspension of a Hearthstone tournament player count? Sure, the player isn't an employee, but essentially earns money by playing. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190265

Not really. Blizzard cites a specific rule that all the tournament players agree to that allows them to do that. Most employees don't have any such agreement with their employer.

Even so, with at-will employment, employees have always been subject to being fired for saying something controversial on social media, so this is nothing new.