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'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by danharaj »

gonational wrote: post #89
grievances wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many brave people have fought and died for their countries and rights. Its easy to forget that minorities and “unlucky” people fight too; knowing that you’re safe expressing your points of view is something that many have earned, not all have received. That very much sounds like privilege to me.

We fight to make this country what it is so that we can all stand together as one people, not so we can whine like little babies about who’s more privileged or marginalized than everyone else.

you specifically didn't fight shit, buddy

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by CocaKoala »

Konnstann wrote: post #75
dekhn wrote: post #71

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I understand where you're coming from and I thought twice about using that word. I certainly appreciate the work done to give me freedoms, and I agree luck had a big part of it. But the reality is that as a white middle class male in the US, I do have the privilege to say things and do things in public that people who aren't white or middle class can't. The freedoms we have aren't equally distributed due to systemic…

Can you give me an example of something a non-white, non-middle class person can't say or do in public? Maybe it's my limited world-view, but I can't think of anything specific.

Exercise their second amendment rights? Note the differences in the stories of Philando Castile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile) and Brandon Vreeland (https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/men-who-walked-into-dear...).

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by brodouevencode »

whereistimbo wrote: post #26
rm_-rf_slash wrote: post #19

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They own South Park outright because when it first aired people thought it would flop so they got 100% of the rights to the show. Hell they even had the episode where they said “shit” uncensored and kept a counter for every time they said it. If there’s any show that really can do whatever it wants, it’s South Park.

Not really, according to official south park website southpark.cc.com: SOUTH PARK ©2019 COMEDY PARTNERS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. COMEDY CENTRAL. SOUTH PARK AND ALL RELATED TITLES, LOGOS AND CHARACTERS ARE TRADEMARKS OF COMEDY PARTNERS.

Wikipedia says it's owned by Viacom - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_(franchise)

Maybe there's some nuance in rights vs ownership, idk.

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by kick »

Konnstann wrote: post #75
dekhn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand where you're coming from and I thought twice about using that word. I certainly appreciate the work done to give me freedoms, and I agree luck had a big part of it. But the reality is that as a white middle class male in the US, I do have the privilege to say things and do things in public that people who aren't white or middle class can't. The freedoms we have aren't equally distributed due to systemic…

Can you give me an example of something a non-white, non-middle class person can't say or do in public? Maybe it's my limited world-view, but I can't think of anything specific.

Picking up trash on your own lawn (the officer involved in this faced no penalty and is currently getting paid in full until 2020 because he resigned).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjkmsKr6sM

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by cblades »

gonational wrote: post #89
grievances wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many brave people have fought and died for their countries and rights. Its easy to forget that minorities and “unlucky” people fight too; knowing that you’re safe expressing your points of view is something that many have earned, not all have received. That very much sounds like privilege to me.

We fight to make this country what it is so that we can all stand together as one people, not so we can whine like little babies about who’s more privileged or marginalized than everyone else.

Acknowledging that rights are more readily and equally given to some people than others is not whining.

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by cblades »

Konnstann wrote: post #93
dekhn wrote: post #82

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Sure, if you (10 years ago) smoked a joint on the street, and you were black, you carried a far far higher risk of being imprisoned.

Where's the parallel between doing something illegal (10 years ago) and being able to comment on the political climate without fearing for your life/livelihood?

The unequal application of the law based on race. Equal treatment under the law is just as much a fundamental right as freedom of expression is and, arguably, equal treatment prevents the subtle and slow erosion of other rights.

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by rossdavidh »

zarro wrote: post #83

Before this episode I always wondered why they kept making those bad transformers movies, turns out China loves em. I think its fine if people want to make movies for the China market, but what I find alarming is copycat behavior trying to bring that sort of censorship here. It doesn't make any sense to me why anyone should apologize or censor themselves creatively just because someone got salty about it. I find the…

Once your country's media companies are getting a big chunk of their revenue from another country, though, it is nearly inevitable that they will tend to produce content that is inoffensive in all of those markets. It is similar in mechanism to how a committee is not a great way to be innovative. This is a downside to a globalized media economy which I think has not been widely understood.

Re: 'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology

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Post by ozzyman700 »

eli_gottlieb wrote: post #96
ozzyman700 wrote: post #76

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The revolutionary class in china is the Party itself, working to liberate the world.

Please tell us that tankie sloganeering was sarcastic.

No I believe MLM is the path towards achieving common goals of superabundance and unleashing human ability.
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