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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by echelon »

missosoup wrote: post #428
Shivetya wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

American video games? What about American companies that have factories there or other presence there? Hello Apple! Hello Tesla! Hello Google. Blizzard has been bending over backwards for some time with regards to China but this is the first time I remember them taking action against someone who does not work for them. the simple matter is, you cannot pick and choose, all the companies must be shamed into not bending…

What factories? Everyone already has or currently is moving manufacturing operations from China to Viet Nam or India. 5 more years and the only factories China will have are going to be domestic.

If we're going to repeat the same cycle with Vietnam and India, we'd do well to encourage democracy this go-around.

If we elevate authoritarian countries to our level, democracy may be in for a rough future.

We should be learning a lot from the China situation. Modern China proves that authoritarian capitalism works and that you don't need freedom or liberty for your citizens. And that's incredibly scary.

Imagine if that meme spreads to democratic countries...

We need to be handling this situation with urgency. As bad and as pressing an issue as climate change is, this is much more terrifying.

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Post by travisgriggs »

missosoup wrote: post #428
Shivetya wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

American video games? What about American companies that have factories there or other presence there? Hello Apple! Hello Tesla! Hello Google. Blizzard has been bending over backwards for some time with regards to China but this is the first time I remember them taking action against someone who does not work for them. the simple matter is, you cannot pick and choose, all the companies must be shamed into not bending…

What factories? Everyone already has or currently is moving manufacturing operations from China to Viet Nam or India. 5 more years and the only factories China will have are going to be domestic.

I've wondered about this. Are there sourceable numbers in this? Is it the case that a couple newsworthy departures are giving the impression that everyone's leaving? Or is it the case that these are exceptions in the statistical noise?

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Post by z9e »

mercutio2 wrote: post #442
ourlordcaffeine wrote: post #319

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To that end, I've started a list on github https://github.com/caffeine-overload/bandinchina

You started a list about musical performers in China? [EDIT: I see, it was deliberate wordplay from South Park. Sorry!]

Probably a play on the recent Band in China South Park episode.

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Post by everdev »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #353

Absolutely agree, it's time for American video games to stop publishing in China. It's not worth the Chinese influence on our society.

The same thing just happened in the NBA. I can't recall another time where supporting democracy has received such a backlash.

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Post by whatshisface »

mola wrote: post #438
whatshisface wrote: post #254

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If you think back to before gay marriage was accepted as a culturally obvious fact, some of the arguments against it involved hating gays, but others didn't. Without the ability to tell which beliefs actually motivated his donation, it is not possible to discern if he was against gays or not. (I'll refrain from giving any specific examples in order to avoid starting that debate again, but I think most of us can remem…

What is A genuine reason for being against gay marriage that does not include hating the concept of gays, or the concept of marriage? Two adults want to share their life, with the burdens and rights that non gays get. Really, why would you care if not because you find the concept of same sex couples bad and harmful?

I can give a silly example in order to avoid restarting the debate. Someone who truly believed that gays would cause earthquakes could vote against prop 8. purely on the basis of the San Andreas fault. If you think for long enough you could probably come up with less and less silly sounding arguments, until eventually you arrive at one that a rational and non-evil person could convincingly be misled by. The essential point is that even if you are 100% convinced that the Mozilla CEO held an incorrect belief, it still remains to be shown that evil was the only explanation for that belief.

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Post by eric-hu »

redleggedfrog wrote: post #387
hombre_fatal wrote: post #352

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No, boycotting something entails changing your lifestyle to avoid something. For hearthstone players, that means stop partaking in one of their hobbies. You aren't boycotting something because you are quitting it, anyways. Also, you're kinda doing the thing where you go "Ugh, it's so easy, c'mon people! I never even played Heartstone in my life. See? It's not that hard to quit over moral principals!"

I have over 500 hours in Hearthstone. I played it on Saturday. It was my main online game. I haven't played it since. And yes, it's still an easy call. I was in Hong Kong for quite a bit when I was younger. It's a glorious place. Or was, I haven't been back. I don't approve of the Chinese government, nor the United States relationship with China. We've compromised our principals for economic gain (I'm American). Hong…

Wait, did I miss something? Isn't the NBA doing the same thing as Blizzard?
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