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After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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>At least they are not the same warmongerers as the USA Yes, it is so much better that they conduct their business of organ harvesting domestic prisoners and putting Muslims into concentration camps in their own (conquered) territories instead of doing it in places that fly different flags. Think of how horrible that would be if that were the case! Edit: 你好,无毛党!

That's a lame argument. US could be considered more evil than China (I agree with you), but both are evil when looking at specific aspects of their behavior. Argumenting that they (brutally) repress their own citizens does somehow absolve US from war crimes done on foreign soil is simply not valid.

I think this is where MLK’s “injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere” comes into play. There is no better or worse. There is only right and wrong. And there is plenty of wrong in plenty of places. Lots of right too, but right in any quantity does not negate the wrong.

Or to put it another way, I think that representative democracy is the least worst form of government, and plenty of Chinese may think that the CCP’s autocracy is better. The fact that both forms of government have been responsible for human rights abuses (to use a rhetorical big tent the size of Greenland) neither is justified by their system of government nor does it render either system as fundamentally wrong. A lot of Chinese who would have otherwise etched out a life of hopeless extreme poverty have all the reason in the world to side with the CCP.

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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China right now is national socialism like Hitler could only dream of implementing. It is eerie how directly parallel developments are, and how little this is remarked.

It is more state capitalism. Socialism implies more democracy.

National Socialism was state capitalism. The CCP's control of their corporations and conglomerates is almost like they took Speer's notebooks and followed them to the letter. It's possible that Krupp and IG Farben and Messerschmitt were able to wag the dog a little more than their Chinese equivalents, but the resemblances are striking.

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

#33

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>At least they are not the same warmongerers as the USA Yes, it is so much better that they conduct their business of organ harvesting domestic prisoners and putting Muslims into concentration camps in their own (conquered) territories instead of doing it in places that fly different flags. Think of how horrible that would be if that were the case! Edit: 你好,无毛党!

That's a lame argument. US could be considered more evil than China (I agree with you), but both are evil when looking at specific aspects of their behavior. Argumenting that they (brutally) repress their own citizens does somehow absolve US from war crimes done on foreign soil is simply not valid.

I don't believe he is absolving the US. He is pointing out there is a false claim of moral superiority for the Chinese. For example, could you have the equivalent debate in China?

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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Good, good....the more the merrier. Maybe finally the world will stop cuddling with China like they did in past 3 decades and start treating them for what they really are. A tight grip censorship dictatorship that has thrown dust in the world's eyes posing as softies while behind the scenes they amassed a lot of wealth riding West blindness.

At least they are not the same warmongerers as the USA. Their tactics to use the legit ways of business to gain more power is really smart compared to many western countries who just invade others with brute force, military and bombs. China is a f*ed up country concerning human rights etc. but in the end we could really use a mix of the best ideas from both worlds. I'm afraid the world will go on like it does because…

It's a very poor argument to dismiss or dilute criticism of China because the US also warrants criticism.

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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Is it irony that the episode on censorship isn't even available outside of the States?

There is no US-only restriction. Some locations might be restritcted, but I could watch the episode in Estonia. https://southpark.cc.com/

Works in Serbia, too!

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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Deleted only from the web controlled by the Peopple's Republic of China. You can still access South Park from the Republic of China and elsewhere. (Look what I did there: two countries, not one.)

The One China policy is moronic. If they keep being assholes, it is about time to give Taiwan their long overdue recognition. Hell, give them back the Security Council seat that they had until the 70s...

Do you understand that US blessing was what made PRC's UN seat possible? China wasn't that popular even with 3rd world countries back then.

Reversing that now, when Chinese money are going all around the globe now will not work.

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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China right now is national socialism like Hitler could only dream of implementing. It is eerie how directly parallel developments are, and how little this is remarked.

It is more state capitalism. Socialism implies more democracy.

Far be it from nazis to portray themselves as something they're not...

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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I love this in every way.

I'm curious to see if their relationship with Ubisoft gets strained, though, given some recent news with gaming companies trying hard to maintain good relations with China, and because I believe Ubisoft is partly owned by a Chinese company.

(FYI - Ubisoft / Obsidian made the Stick of Truth games, and I believe a mobile game or two with the South Park license.)

Re: After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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Let's be honest, we all know why they're banning South Park. It's because they showed Winnie the Pooh... P.S. While this trending topic isn't directly related to technology, great to see the masses in tech taking a stance against censorship.

The scene where Pooh is garrotted?

Of course! Pooh looks just like the Chinese president for life, after all.
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