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The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by paxys »

adwf wrote: post #9
shafyy wrote: post #2

Two of the laureates are Swiss. This brings the total number of Swiss laureates to 28, making it the third country with most Nobel prizes per capita. The first two are Saint Lucia and Luxemburg, which have 180k and 600k inhabitants respectively. Among the bigger countries, Switzerland has the most per capita Nobel prizes. Interestingly, UK is on number 9 on that list and has a significantly bigger population than the…

It would probably be more fair to attribute the Nobel prize "nationality" to the university/country at which the scientist was working at the time they made their discovery.

You can say the same for the Olympics as well. Ultimately there's no single "fair" system, just different labels, and country that issued your passport is what most people/organizations choose to go with.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by joelbluminator »

hobofan wrote: post #6
shafyy wrote: post #2

Two of the laureates are Swiss. This brings the total number of Swiss laureates to 28, making it the third country with most Nobel prizes per capita. The first two are Saint Lucia and Luxemburg, which have 180k and 600k inhabitants respectively. Among the bigger countries, Switzerland has the most per capita Nobel prizes. Interestingly, UK is on number 9 on that list and has a significantly bigger population than the…

I'd be wary of any such statistics, and trying to draw any conclusion about the current status of a country from that. For one, the total timeframe of the Nobel Prize is more than a hundred years, and even for individual prizes the time between contribution and award is usually decades. That's a lot of time for possible change in a country. On top of that, there had been repeated criticism (that has been in part ackn…

That's all true, but still it's pretty obvious Switzerland is doing extremely well by any metric you can think of.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by smhost »

shafyy wrote: post #8
hobofan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be wary of any such statistics, and trying to draw any conclusion about the current status of a country from that. For one, the total timeframe of the Nobel Prize is more than a hundred years, and even for individual prizes the time between contribution and award is usually decades. That's a lot of time for possible change in a country. On top of that, there had been repeated criticism (that has been in part ackn…

I don't have deep knowledge about the Nobel Prize selection procedure, so I'm not going to go into that. But, obviously, all awards will have some kind of bias because a small group of humans make that decision. However, the US has more per capita prizes than the EU, so not sure that that critisicm is warranted. Anyways, I also wouldn't draw any conclusions about "the current status of a country" based on number of n…

the term "eurocentric" normally isn't about NA vs EU rivalry, but rather about "european identity" in the white supremacist sense. (the caveat is that radical equality is also a distinctly european tradition, but still, this tradition doesn't seem to get included under the "eurocentric" label, for whatever reason)

Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by ProstetnicJeltz »

safgasCVS wrote: post #12

Still cant believe the economics profession managed to convince people it deserves a seat at the table of the hard sciences

I don't think anyone is looking at the Nobel prizes to categorise sciences.

The 'table of hard science' according to Alfred Nobel also includes medicine (not science, but we'll let it pass), literature (really not science), and peace (really really not science).

Anyway, the Nobel Prize for economics is not actually a Nobel prize anyway.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by 2rsf »

shafyy wrote: post #2

Two of the laureates are Swiss. This brings the total number of Swiss laureates to 28, making it the third country with most Nobel prizes per capita. The first two are Saint Lucia and Luxemburg, which have 180k and 600k inhabitants respectively. Among the bigger countries, Switzerland has the most per capita Nobel prizes. Interestingly, UK is on number 9 on that list and has a significantly bigger population than the…

And 20% of the laureates are Jewish, while Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the world's population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by hos234 »

shafyy wrote: post #2

Two of the laureates are Swiss. This brings the total number of Swiss laureates to 28, making it the third country with most Nobel prizes per capita. The first two are Saint Lucia and Luxemburg, which have 180k and 600k inhabitants respectively. Among the bigger countries, Switzerland has the most per capita Nobel prizes. Interestingly, UK is on number 9 on that list and has a significantly bigger population than the…

This has nothing to do with national borders. In US, UK and Germany the Nobel's don't come from all over the country but from very small areas.

If Princeton/Newyork/Boston declared independence tomorrow those new countries would be at the top of the list too.

Where cash concentrates Science happens.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by kgwgk »

shafyy wrote: post #2

Two of the laureates are Swiss. This brings the total number of Swiss laureates to 28, making it the third country with most Nobel prizes per capita. The first two are Saint Lucia and Luxemburg, which have 180k and 600k inhabitants respectively. Among the bigger countries, Switzerland has the most per capita Nobel prizes. Interestingly, UK is on number 9 on that list and has a significantly bigger population than the…

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Re: The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019

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Post by joelbluminator »

2rsf wrote: post #16
shafyy wrote: post #2

Two of the laureates are Swiss. This brings the total number of Swiss laureates to 28, making it the third country with most Nobel prizes per capita. The first two are Saint Lucia and Luxemburg, which have 180k and 600k inhabitants respectively. Among the bigger countries, Switzerland has the most per capita Nobel prizes. Interestingly, UK is on number 9 on that list and has a significantly bigger population than the…

And 20% of the laureates are Jewish, while Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the world's population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

And 96% are men although men comprise only 49% of the population. Just saying...go men!
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