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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by esailija »

diveanon wrote: post #65
jackvalentine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Article 35. Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration.

That's completely true, except for the fact that none of it is true. Go to China and openly criticize the government, hand out fliers about Tienanmen square with Winnie the Pooh on it and see what happens. God forbid you actually are a citizen of China, because as a foreigner you will be put in a detention center until deported. As a citizen you will disappear.

First you lie about constitution then you make even more claims. Before making more claims answer why did you lie in the first place? Is it because you have no idea what you are talking about and are just parroting what you have heard?

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Post by hyperdunc »

diveanon wrote: post #76
nabla9 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about Chinese owners? Chinese Tencent owns 5 percent of Blizzard, if full owner of Riot Games, 48% of Epic Games, 11.5% of Bluehole (Fortnite and PUBG), 5% of Ubisoft. They are also investor in Discord. https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-... AMC is fully owned by Chinese. The largest movie theater chain in the United States is fully owned by Chinese. Legendary Entertainment Group is owned…

Make them choose between the two markets. I'm tired of the idea that the Western and Chinese markets can both be appeased the middle of the road morality. What is happening in HK right now is wrong, and the west has fought wars over this very issue.

It's the authoritarian Chinese government insisting on censorship. Not so much the Chinese market.

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Post by diveanon »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #68
diveanon wrote: post #27

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

How do you suppose this would be implemented? These things only affect a very small niche audience. Most people don't care what is going on in HK and even less people will care about this incident.

I feel like social media is the best legal venue for it.

Start sending messages to every game dev, project manager, and director at these companies asking them why they support the totalitarian oppression of HK. Ask them what they are currently doing to limit the influence of totalitarian regimes on their corporate policy.

Make the issue personal for the companies by fomenting discontent from within.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

kkarakk wrote: post #38
bdibs wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree they’re spot on, it’s not like this is a new issue.

China has been leveraging their power "quietly" for some time now. Anything anti-China gets buried or discredited or shouted down using whataboutisms. Even here on hackernews you'll see tons of posts on negative chinese news from month old accounts fuzzing the narrative saying some variation of "it's not easy to understand if you're not chinese etc etc" The hong kong issue is just bringing the issue into the mainstre…

> Anything anti-China gets buried or discredited or shouted down using whataboutisms.

Interesting. The only time I see whataboutism and China/Russia brought up in the same HN thread is when somebody tries to defend China/Russia by pointing out similar problems in the West, and that person gets shouted down and accused of engaging in "whataboutism".

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Post by nabla9 »

diveanon wrote: post #76
nabla9 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about Chinese owners? Chinese Tencent owns 5 percent of Blizzard, if full owner of Riot Games, 48% of Epic Games, 11.5% of Bluehole (Fortnite and PUBG), 5% of Ubisoft. They are also investor in Discord. https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-... AMC is fully owned by Chinese. The largest movie theater chain in the United States is fully owned by Chinese. Legendary Entertainment Group is owned…

Make them choose between the two markets. I'm tired of the idea that the Western and Chinese markets can both be appeased the middle of the road morality. What is happening in HK right now is wrong, and the west has fought wars over this very issue.

Cultural movement would require people who are not themselves in the middle ground in the road to morality.

It's hard to imagine people stopping using Uber, Lyft, Twitter, Snapchat, Fox News just because Saudis are heavily invested.

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Post by celticninja »

byte1918 wrote: post #80
Aozi wrote: post #58

What we need is a JS developer to take down an important package from NPM in protest, thus breaking the Internet again.

The NPM fiasco should no longer be possible If you want to unpublish a package after 72 hours have passed, contact npm Support. For more information about why we don’t allow users to unpublish packages after 72 hours, see our unpublish policy. https://docs.npmjs.com/unpublishing-packages-from-the-regist...

Could you just publish garbage instead?

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Post by macintux »

kkarakk wrote: post #51
ReptileMan wrote: post #5

This is shaping to be fun tactic in the culture war. To force corporations that want to be seen as woke in the west to bow to China which will hurt their image at home. If someone manages to do it with Nike it will be fun to watch.

Made me laugh when Apple made a big stink about privacy BUT "chose" to headquarter their messaging servers in China under "Chinese oversight" basically compromising every iMessage user in China.This is of course labelled as "compliance" Privacy and Encryption don't mean much when the government literally controls the servers

Users can still E2E encrypt their messages. As long as they choose not to store them in iCloud, they’re safe.

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Post by leppr »

byte1918 wrote: post #80
Aozi wrote: post #58

What we need is a JS developer to take down an important package from NPM in protest, thus breaking the Internet again.

The NPM fiasco should no longer be possible If you want to unpublish a package after 72 hours have passed, contact npm Support. For more information about why we don’t allow users to unpublish packages after 72 hours, see our unpublish policy. https://docs.npmjs.com/unpublishing-packages-from-the-regist...

It was never possible without "admin" intervention. That whole inccident was NPM's sole responsibility.

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Post by [deleted] »

_rrnv wrote: post #47

People seem to be really surprised that capitalism doesn’t equal freedom. Time to wake up. Free world is in decline. Democracies of today are mostly facades to a more-less controlled societies. Sure, people can vote, but what happens after that? The accountability and controlling mechanisms have been in erosion for years now. Even the EU legislation, once a model of democracy, is now so far from the individual citize…

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