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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by nabla9 »

diveanon wrote: post #27

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

How about Chinese owners?

Chinese Tencent owns 5 percent of Blizzard, if full owner of Riot Games, 48% of Epic Games, 11.5% of Bluehole (Fortnite and PUBG), 5% of Ubisoft. They are also investor in Discord. https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-...

AMC is fully owned by Chinese. The largest movie theater chain in the United States is fully owned by Chinese.

Legendary Entertainment Group is owned by Chinese.

Forbes Media sold majority stake to Chinese company.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by kbrackbill »

diveanon wrote: post #27

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

Isn't that already true now? The problem is that most corporations seem to be picking the first option.

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Post by jackvalentine »

kkarakk wrote: post #54
jackvalentine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Article 35. Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration.

Which part of their constitution mentions the gulags they sent their muslims/protestors to?

Article 36. Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of religious belief.

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Post by aaron695 »

I go to a JavaScript conference to learn about JavaScript.

I watch sports to watch sports.

I'm sick of other people thinking 'their' politics is ok to shove down my throat. They want to 'fight' for their cause, cool, but take the consequences.

The NBA for whatever reason has allowed published (aka public Twitter) political comments in the past so it's different to this case.

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Post by diveanon »

jackvalentine wrote: post #31
diveanon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing, because in the US we have freedom of speech codified into our constitution. Unlike China.

> Article 35. Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration.

That's completely true, except for the fact that none of it is true.

Go to China and openly criticize the government, hand out fliers about Tienanmen square with Winnie the Pooh on it and see what happens.

God forbid you actually are a citizen of China, because as a foreigner you will be put in a detention center until deported. As a citizen you will disappear.

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Post by soapdog »

FDSGSG wrote: post #60

The obvious, necessary solution would be to respond by aggressively doxing the executives of Blizzard and their large stockholders. It's all about money until your wife and kids start getting calls at night and the cops kick in your door. There's no reason to remain civil when fighting those who'd stand against human rights.

So a company does a shit move and you want to take it out on kids?

Doxing is never the answer. The answer is: stop using products from shit companies.

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Post by atroche »

ryanlol wrote: post #35
atroche wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s reasonable from the perspective of maximising profit, sure. And it’s true that they’re (as far as I know) consistently applying a rule they set out a long time ago. But that doesn’t make it the right decision, morally. Sometimes rules should be broken.

>And it’s true that they’re (as far as I know) consistently applying a rule they set out a long time ago. Have they ever enforced this rule in the past? If not, it's difficult to speak of consistency.

I think it also hinges on whether or not previous players have made “offensive” statements before.

If it’s only happened once and they’ve punished it once, I think that’s as consistent as possible.

Although of course there’s a lot wriggle room re definition of “offensive”, which muddies the waters.

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

diveanon wrote: post #27

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

How do you suppose this would be implemented? These things only affect a very small niche audience. Most people don't care what is going on in HK and even less people will care about this incident.

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Post by FDSGSG »

soapdog wrote: post #66
FDSGSG wrote: post #60

The obvious, necessary solution would be to respond by aggressively doxing the executives of Blizzard and their large stockholders. It's all about money until your wife and kids start getting calls at night and the cops kick in your door. There's no reason to remain civil when fighting those who'd stand against human rights.

So a company does a shit move and you want to take it out on kids? Doxing is never the answer. The answer is: stop using products from shit companies.

Direct action against executives, even by tiny groups, is far more likely to have an impact than passive boycotts.

Eh, I guess virtue signalling is the priority on HN and not actual change. Think of the poor executives kids! Not Falun Gong, HKers or the Uyghurs.

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Post by [deleted] »

diveanon wrote: post #65
jackvalentine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Article 35. Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration.

That's completely true, except for the fact that none of it is true. Go to China and openly criticize the government, hand out fliers about Tienanmen square with Winnie the Pooh on it and see what happens. God forbid you actually are a citizen of China, because as a foreigner you will be put in a detention center until deported. As a citizen you will disappear.

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