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South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by audessuscest »

boudin wrote: post #188
audessuscest wrote: post #186

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it is similar , that does not mean it's the same. Show me where to watch these episodes in France now...(legally) Also, I'm sure it's pretty easy to watch the censored episode in China... So yeah, very similar. Another example in France is Soral who got one year jail for sharing a music video about Gilet Jaune[1]. Whatever you think about him, it's what we can call political repression. [1] https://www.youtube.com/wa…

Now you're just saying pure bullshit. Soral is in jail for exactly "provocation to discrimination, hatred or violence against Jews". Freedom of speech doesn't remove any responsibility behind it. Looking at all the hate speech and racists lies this guy have been spreading for years, it's even surprising he avoided this kind of sentence before. This is the result of more than 20 sentences since 2008, mostly for "negat…

You're just lying, he's been condemned for sharing the video : https://www.nouvelobs.com/justice/20190919.OBS18677/alain-so... Video which btw have nothing antisemite... but if you want to kill your dog, accuse him of having rabies... Oh and it's not 1 year sorry, it's 18 months.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by audessuscest »

boudin wrote: post #187
audessuscest wrote: post #184

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141568/yellow-vest-...

I do not support the way the french government dealt with the yellow vest protests, but you cannot compare it with countries where opposing the government gets you systematically arrested and no free press exists. It's not because some of the actions of the french government are really questionable that the situation is the same

hmm yes you can, it's a shame for France to have mutilated that many people only for doing demonstration. WHILE LETTING OTHER PEOPLE BREAKS EVERYTHING FREELY.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by Kaiyou »

ajmurmann wrote: post #130
quotz wrote: post #117

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Its scary how much communism is affecting our daily lives, even if we live far away from it...

Is it really communism at this point? There definitely is a lot of capitalism and fascism happening there. It's really about the party and it's leaders and they'll adopt whatever economic or social policy to further the party and its leaders' power and riches.

Isn't that what communism in practice is? Or are you on the "real communism has never been tried" side of things?

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by bartread »

wei_jok wrote: post #83
rqs wrote: post #68

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The point is: This country is not taking any critic any more. And, that's one of the reasons why the Cultural Revolution is ended horribly. Which is why this should raise some concern at least for Chinese people.

Thanks. (To the other commenters: give them a break, not everyone is a native English speaker. I don't think that comment was machine generated)

Fair: I was tired, cranky, and jumped to a conclusion I shouldn't have. I was wrong and I apologise.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by bartread »

rqs wrote: post #75
bartread wrote: post #29

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I agree: GP reads like spun/machine-generated content.

"machine-generated" because my English mode still cold. I'm learning English with RNN, it takes awhile.

I apologise: that remark was unfair and out of line. I was over-tired and jumped to a conclusion.

Thanks also for the clarification: now I understand what you were saying.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by ajuc »

Kaiyou wrote: post #193
ajmurmann wrote: post #130

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Is it really communism at this point? There definitely is a lot of capitalism and fascism happening there. It's really about the party and it's leaders and they'll adopt whatever economic or social policy to further the party and its leaders' power and riches.

Isn't that what communism in practice is? Or are you on the "real communism has never been tried" side of things?

USSR and its sphere of influence was communism in practice. You couldn't create a company, you weren't allowed to do anything for money without state permission (and mostly there was no permission). Prices and number of things produced were decided by the ruling party.

It failed almost universally.

China today is less "communist" economically than most of EU.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by ncmncm »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #176
toomanyrichies wrote: post #81

Comedy Central is owned by Viacom, which also owns Paramount Pictures. China is a huge market for Paramount's films. Paramount has previously explored a 49% sale to China's Wanda Group, and they currently have extensive financial backing from the Shanghai Film Group Corp.[2] If they wanted to, it's well within the purview of the CCP to apply pressure to Paramount's ability to finance its films or distribute those fil…

Agreed. But it's reins in, not reigns in.

Right: reins control horses. Reigns are what kings have. (And rains make flowers.) Those are nouns, but they all verb.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by thinkingemote »

Where are the usual users saying "it's a private company, they can do what they want. It's not censorship."?

Are those usual users we hear on this platform when companies like Facebook or Google or Reddit or etc censor people and ideas silent in this case or are they being hypocrites?

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by ncmncm »

ajuc wrote: post #196
Kaiyou wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that what communism in practice is? Or are you on the "real communism has never been tried" side of things?

USSR and its sphere of influence was communism in practice. You couldn't create a company, you weren't allowed to do anything for money without state permission (and mostly there was no permission). Prices and number of things produced were decided by the ruling party. It failed almost universally. China today is less "communist" economically than most of EU.

Capitalism, communism, fascism, they are all distractions from facts on the ground. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia resembled nothing so much as one another.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Post by WilliamEdward »

thinkingemote wrote: post #198

Where are the usual users saying "it's a private company, they can do what they want. It's not censorship."? Are those usual users we hear on this platform when companies like Facebook or Google or Reddit or etc censor people and ideas silent in this case or are they being hypocrites?

The question is, why are they doing it? You'd have to be naive to think that the authoritarian grip China has on everything is not the exact reason the episode is being censored.

Contrast this to banning someone for saying bad words on a forum - that's not even remotely the same issue and I shouldn't have to explain why.

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