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Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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You said it, todays top post on HN is Apple complying with the removal of Taiwan from their OS.

Arent Apple chips manufactured in Taiwan? Would Wouldnt it be funny if TSMC decided Apple doesnt exist?

It doesn't matter if Apple exists as long as Apple's money exists.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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That's not really the situation about South Park, Netflix chose to not make those episodes not available, there is no censorship from the CSA. Nerflix claim that those episodes were censored originally was false as those were broadcasted on Gameone. The only thing that happened then is that the channel got a warning that (for 2 of those) the episodes should have been broadcasted after 22 and rated +12 due to the cont…

Result is very similar, which is all that matters. In a way it's even worse, because they pretend to be a free country and shit (while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements). China at least is not pretending that.

The result is absolutly not similar since there is no censorship at all. This is even the oposite since those epsiodes are available... If you're not happy with Netflix deciding to filter what's available, just stop using netflix.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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post #153

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That's not really the situation about South Park, Netflix chose to not make those episodes not available, there is no censorship from the CSA. Nerflix claim that those episodes were censored originally was false as those were broadcasted on Gameone. The only thing that happened then is that the channel got a warning that (for 2 of those) the episodes should have been broadcasted after 22 and rated +12 due to the cont…

Result is very similar, which is all that matters. In a way it's even worse, because they pretend to be a free country and shit (while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements). China at least is not pretending that.

> while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements

Source on that?

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Result is very similar, which is all that matters. In a way it's even worse, because they pretend to be a free country and shit (while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements). China at least is not pretending that.

> while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements Source on that?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141568/yellow-vest-...

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Oh there are you know. Some people want to murder other people that they have never met and don't know, also they want to murder those people's children. These people don't have some reasonable arguments, instead they have a shared assumption of hate and (im)moral purpose.

Just as a counter to this, war invokes similar behaviour and a lot of people often support that.

I have to say, I don;'t see this as a counter - isn't it a norm and a good idea to try and avoid wars and stop them as quickly as possible? The implacable hatred of "the other" is the problem - not the reluctance of the sane to debate with the folks who have the implacable hatred issue.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Result is very similar, which is all that matters. In a way it's even worse, because they pretend to be a free country and shit (while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements). China at least is not pretending that.

The result is absolutly not similar since there is no censorship at all. This is even the oposite since those epsiodes are available... If you're not happy with Netflix deciding to filter what's available, just stop using netflix.

it is similar, that does not mean it's the same. Show me where to watch these episodes in France now...(legally) Also, I'm sure it's pretty easy to watch the censored episode in China... So yeah, very similar. Another example in France is Soral who got one year jail for sharing a music video about Gilet Jaune[1]. Whatever you think about him, it's what we can call political repression.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxFchAvqwK4

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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> while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements Source on that?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141568/yellow-vest-...

I do not support the way the french government dealt with the yellow vest protests, but you cannot compare it with countries where opposing the government gets you systematically arrested and no free press exists. It's not because some of the actions of the french government are really questionable that the situation is the same

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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The result is absolutly not similar since there is no censorship at all. This is even the oposite since those epsiodes are available... If you're not happy with Netflix deciding to filter what's available, just stop using netflix.

it is similar , that does not mean it's the same. Show me where to watch these episodes in France now...(legally) Also, I'm sure it's pretty easy to watch the censored episode in China... So yeah, very similar. Another example in France is Soral who got one year jail for sharing a music video about Gilet Jaune[1]. Whatever you think about him, it's what we can call political repression. [1] https://www.youtube.com/wa…

Now you're just saying pure bullshit. Soral is in jail for exactly "provocation to discrimination, hatred or violence against Jews". Freedom of speech doesn't remove any responsibility behind it. Looking at all the hate speech and racists lies this guy have been spreading for years, it's even surprising he avoided this kind of sentence before.

This is the result of more than 20 sentences since 2008, mostly for "negationisme" (negating that the holocaust happened, which is not legal in france), publishing antisemitic caricatures, hate speech and other things.

The list is available here, in french: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Soral#Condamnations

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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post #182

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The result is absolutly not similar since there is no censorship at all. This is even the oposite since those epsiodes are available... If you're not happy with Netflix deciding to filter what's available, just stop using netflix.

it is similar , that does not mean it's the same. Show me where to watch these episodes in France now...(legally) Also, I'm sure it's pretty easy to watch the censored episode in China... So yeah, very similar. Another example in France is Soral who got one year jail for sharing a music video about Gilet Jaune[1]. Whatever you think about him, it's what we can call political repression. [1] https://www.youtube.com/wa…

Oh, and for your censorship claims: https://www.amazon.fr/s?k=south+park+saison+10&__mk_fr_FR=%C...

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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post #153

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That's not really the situation about South Park, Netflix chose to not make those episodes not available, there is no censorship from the CSA. Nerflix claim that those episodes were censored originally was false as those were broadcasted on Gameone. The only thing that happened then is that the channel got a warning that (for 2 of those) the episodes should have been broadcasted after 22 and rated +12 due to the cont…

Result is very similar, which is all that matters. In a way it's even worse, because they pretend to be a free country and shit (while doing repression even more violently than chinese or russian governements). China at least is not pretending that.

Censored in China. Not censored in France. Looks like different results to me.
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