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Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

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Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit solves this by hiding poorly ranked comments.

Not quite. That filters out the bad ones, but the underlying problem still remains: people reply to highly-ranked comments with something only tangentially related, or not related at all, in order to put it in front of a wider audience. People then upvote it even though it isn't related because it might be insightful.

Sullivan's paradox.

Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

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post #49

When did this start? I read almost exclusively through the ihackernews.com mobile site. I just checked and it does not implement the more button and only shows the first 40 or so comments. It looks like I have been missing out on the end comments of popular threads without realizing it. :(

the last few hours

Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

#53
post #7

I agree, I think this basically disincentivizes commenting when you know you're going to end up "below the fold". I went into the feature request thread to see if anyone had requested the ability to turn this off, but gave up on looking after rapid-fire clicking "More" 25+ times. Content more than a page or two back might as well not exist.

The Reddit community actually speaks of this phenomenon in threads addressed to new members ("things you should know about Reddit", etc). They say that once there's several long threads with a lot of upvotes, you're better off not commenting as your comment will most likely languish without any attention whatsoever. I'd say that's partially due to scrolling, but you're correct - that More button is so non-obvious tha…

Maybe we need something like twitter implemented... when you scroll below certain number of comments they load n comments more automagically.

Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

#54

There's a really easy fix to this: Load more comments on scroll-to-bottom. No button, no bandwidth used, but those who make it to the bottom of a thread don't have to do anything to see new comments. I agree with OP; the current system is suboptimal, to say the least.

Ugh, I hope this does not happen, I hate the scroll-to-the-bottom-and-get-more thing. Particularly if the server is under heavy load already, you never know if there is more or if so how much, and it takes the scrollbar away from your mouse pointer once it's loaded another chunk due to the relative offset.

Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

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post #7

I agree, I think this basically disincentivizes commenting when you know you're going to end up "below the fold". I went into the feature request thread to see if anyone had requested the ability to turn this off, but gave up on looking after rapid-fire clicking "More" 25+ times. Content more than a page or two back might as well not exist.

The Reddit community actually speaks of this phenomenon in threads addressed to new members ("things you should know about Reddit", etc). They say that once there's several long threads with a lot of upvotes, you're better off not commenting as your comment will most likely languish without any attention whatsoever. I'd say that's partially due to scrolling, but you're correct - that More button is so non-obvious tha…

The more link has the rel="nofollow" attribute, so anything but the top comments will (in theory) not be indexed by search engines either. Given that some functions of the site are based on karma, I hope it's just a stopgap measure.

Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

#57

I agree, I think this basically disincentivizes commenting when you know you're going to end up "below the fold". I went into the feature request thread to see if anyone had requested the ability to turn this off, but gave up on looking after rapid-fire clicking "More" 25+ times. Content more than a page or two back might as well not exist.

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Re: Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?

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There's a really easy fix to this: Load more comments on scroll-to-bottom. No button, no bandwidth used, but those who make it to the bottom of a thread don't have to do anything to see new comments. I agree with OP; the current system is suboptimal, to say the least.

NOoooo!!! Anything but the Scrollbar of Sisyphus!
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