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Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Post by lonelappde »

mey wrote: post #2

It's easy to forget the freedom I enjoy and expect in the United States. Again brings to light the question, how much do you actually own your device? Since I assume there is no recourse for these users on a censorship level, is there such a thing as a class action lawsuit for removing a feature in Hong Kong?

This is the freedom we give up when we choose proprietary systems. China has its problems with authoritarian government, which is enforced at the barrel of a gun. But we (the worldwide society) gave up our communications freedom to Apple and others willingly, for convenience.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Post by lonelappde »

georgeecollins wrote: post #8

I don't know if things are different now, but when I went to school in HK a long time ago, most Chinese people in Hong Kong I talked to felt Taiwan should be part of China.

It's interesting that someone thinks that people of one region have a relevant opinion about what government people of another region should be controlled by.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Post by lonelappde »

seph-reed wrote: post #7

Maybe I'm being naive, but it seems like a better response would be to add a bunch of other "not real country" flags. Flags from ancient civilizations, or countries that no longer exist. Then they wouldn't be taking a stand as the people responsible for defining what is and is not a country.

You know who's not stupid? The Chinese Communist Party is not stupid.

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Post by slimed »

seph-reed wrote: post #7

Maybe I'm being naive, but it seems like a better response would be to add a bunch of other "not real country" flags. Flags from ancient civilizations, or countries that no longer exist. Then they wouldn't be taking a stand as the people responsible for defining what is and is not a country.

That's not how it works in China. Plausible deniability, benefit of the doubt, etc, is not in the CCP's vocabulary.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Post by nailer »

milankragujevic wrote: post #4
mey wrote: post #2

It's easy to forget the freedom I enjoy and expect in the United States. Again brings to light the question, how much do you actually own your device? Since I assume there is no recourse for these users on a censorship level, is there such a thing as a class action lawsuit for removing a feature in Hong Kong?

Even if there was (I don't know, am not a HK lawyer), you would probably have a few problems if you complained about THAT exact feature being removed. Of course, this is just speculation on my part.

'One country two systems' as agreed to by the CCP under the Sino-British Joint Declaration, prior to the handover of Hong Kong, means that the PRC is only responsible for military defence of HK.

Anyone who disagrees that 'one country two systems' applies in Hong Kong is accusing the CCP of lying. Which we know the CCP would never do.

Edit: anyone who has spent time on HN in the last few years and commented on the actions of the CCP should be familiar with the usual brigading by pro-CCP people - anyone with half a sense of decency would welcome the downmods. But to those who downmod, you just accused the CCP of lying. Enjoy being disciplined by your masters.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Post by duxup »

degenerate wrote: post #6

The degree that China goes to censor things reminds me of kindergarten. Pull the shades down, and kids won't want to go outside? Is it simply a reminder to their people of who's in charge, at this level of pettiness?

I think it is petty.

At the same time it's a good gauge for them to figure out what else they can do.

Start with "hey man don't show that one pic" and the company figures "it's one pic, whatever we're not really compromising our values".

A few more steps and then it seems less dramatic when it comes to "give us that information on that one user"... and so on.

Personally I would expect an external social credit score coming soon too. It doesn't have to be all encompassing like the social credit score, but good luck getting a job with a company who wants to work with China if you're on the list...

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Post by hatsunearu »

degenerate wrote: post #6

The degree that China goes to censor things reminds me of kindergarten. Pull the shades down, and kids won't want to go outside? Is it simply a reminder to their people of who's in charge, at this level of pettiness?

I think the fact that they have so much power that they can micromanage incredibly petty things is indicative that CCP has way too much power.
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