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Re: China’s Millennials

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Free press checkpoint RE: Iraq. They shut the internet off there last week to try and suppress ongoing protests/unrest. It's been reported a little, but hardly wall to wall like the Hong Kong thing. Why? Nobody sent out orders to the Anglo press about what to report, yet we still have this very marked phenomenon where the reporting takes 'the side' of Anglo world power. It's worth thinking about for anyone who salute…

Is this a serious question? Because Iraq is a chaotic mess where we are generally impressed if it isn't literally exploding. It's not that shutting the internet off is acceptable, it's that compared to everything else that happens/has happened in Iraq, that's insignificant. We hold (supposedly) functional, developed places to a higher standard in what we expect from them, and it takes smaller acts of injustice or vio…

Americans generally don’t want to hear that our influence globally has been replaced by a combination of deference to autocratic regimes (the whole Russia / Turkey / Syria situation) or direct antagonism of rising powers (China, Iran).

I think Trump’s legacy will be as the symbol of American decline. He represents a hollowing out of core institutions that started long before him, but his presidency will be remembered as the time when the world realized American hegemony was over.

Re: China’s Millennials

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> Now she is thinking of giving up the citizenship she worked so hard to get, and moving back to an authoritarian China where guns and drugs are strictly forbidden – at least her son would be safe. > To quote a friend, "all 'authoritarian' states (really, all states) distribute their 'authoritarianism' unevenly. that you aren't experiencing any right now doesn't mean it isn't being done, it just means you're not part…

> where people think public infrastructure belongs to them rather than as a shared good that everyone has the responsibility to take care of. I do not understand how they are mutually exclusive. I personally believe I am responsible for what belongs to me, and I take care of my belongings. Is it really just me? I do not believe that. Plus, if they do not care about their belongings, what makes you think they will car…

People have different definitions of “self interest”, hence the tragedy of the commons (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons). It’s basically the problem government exists to mediate.

Re: China’s Millennials

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free press checkpoint RE: Iraq. They shut the internet off there last week to try and suppress ongoing protests/unrest. It's been reported a little, but hardly wall to wall like the Hong Kong thing. Why? Nobody sent out orders to the Anglo press about what to report, yet we still have this very marked phenomenon where the reporting takes 'the side' of Anglo world power. It's worth thinking about for anyone who salute…

Is this a serious question? Because Iraq is a chaotic mess where we are generally impressed if it isn't literally exploding. It's not that shutting the internet off is acceptable, it's that compared to everything else that happens/has happened in Iraq, that's insignificant. We hold (supposedly) functional, developed places to a higher standard in what we expect from them, and it takes smaller acts of injustice or vio…

So your argument is that all the people spreading the news of that kid in HK being shot were surprised?

They didn't sound surprised to me. They sounded elated and fulfilled that they were right about the 'bad guys'.

News stories spread because people want to click them. Nobody wants to hear about Iraq, it's a bummer and a reminder that they probably supported it.

The other, though? Tell me how bad they are!

Re: China’s Millennials

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They seem to be having a good time and some old man is uneasy about it. Nothing to see here. The thing about uneasy old men, is they are happy only if everyone shares their uneasiness or someone shows up and holds their hand and tells them everything will be all right. If neither happens they get more and more cranky.

The author of the article is a woman born in the 80s

...With the spirit of an old man at the Waffle House counter.

Re: China’s Millennials

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"Millennial" is a dress-up word for "kids today". The connotation is much clearer under that substitution.

There's a browser extension that replaces every occurrence of the word 'millennial' with 'pesky whipper-snapper'.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/millennials-begone...

Re: China’s Millennials

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> They were offered free software that would enable them to dodge the Great Firewall of China – which blocks almost all major Western news sites and social media outlets – and browse the internet without restrictions. There was some surprise when it turned out that even elite students in China had little interest in finding out what Westerners were thinking. Only 53 per cent of the participants had activated the soft…

This is an even bigger joke if you know that residential areas of the 2 biggest Unis in Beijing have built-in VPNs allowing you to access google anyays :)

Re: China’s Millennials

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> They were offered free software that would enable them to dodge the Great Firewall of China – which blocks almost all major Western news sites and social media outlets – and browse the internet without restrictions. There was some surprise when it turned out that even elite students in China had little interest in finding out what Westerners were thinking. Only 53 per cent of the participants had activated the soft…

You might be thinking that the majority of Chinese are constantly under the fear of being monitored. The reality is people don't care and use VPN all the time. You might've heard people get in trouble using VPN in China. Many of you assume that's the norm. At least for now it's not. It would be like people from other countries heard there are shootings in U.S. schools and assume there are shootings in every U.S. school every day.

Re: China’s Millennials

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> not any old cotton tote, but one that’s trending on Instagram Really? On Instagram?

Instagram is pretty much the reason 99% of the females even scale the GFW.

Generally they hate talking about politics, and actively avoid the "smears" outside the GFW.

That's why the recent pro-China posters are often deemed bots for being inactive or new, they don't like Twitter coz it's full of fake news and smears to them.

Re: China’s Millennials

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post #66

> They were offered free software that would enable them to dodge the Great Firewall of China – which blocks almost all major Western news sites and social media outlets – and browse the internet without restrictions. There was some surprise when it turned out that even elite students in China had little interest in finding out what Westerners were thinking. Only 53 per cent of the participants had activated the soft…

This is an even bigger joke if you know that residential areas of the 2 biggest Unis in Beijing have built-in VPNs allowing you to access google anyays :)

I know of few Western universities in China giving out VPN on campus from under the table, but nothing like that in BJ.

Can you elaborate?

Re: China’s Millennials

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a serious question? Because Iraq is a chaotic mess where we are generally impressed if it isn't literally exploding. It's not that shutting the internet off is acceptable, it's that compared to everything else that happens/has happened in Iraq, that's insignificant. We hold (supposedly) functional, developed places to a higher standard in what we expect from them, and it takes smaller acts of injustice or vio…

So your argument is that all the people spreading the news of that kid in HK being shot were surprised ? They didn't sound surprised to me. They sounded elated and fulfilled that they were right about the 'bad guys'. News stories spread because people want to click them. Nobody wants to hear about Iraq, it's a bummer and a reminder that they probably supported it. The other, though? Tell me how bad they are!

Nobody wants to hear about Iraq? Did you miss https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21140801 ?
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