Preparing for 25 Years
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Preparing for 25 Years
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#2Thank you Dave Winer for creating RSS. For a while there, it seemed like we were on a path of making all data free, a truly decentralized web of information. I wish the internet would have continued on that route.
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#3Here is a Dave story...
I once wrote an early web server using his Frontier Scripting platform which ended up serving up a large corporate website that my company built. Crazy early days of the web. So, I got to 'know' Dave a bit online.
One time I was at a bar (that no longer exists) in San Francisco at some MacWorld event in the 90's and Dave showed up. He and I had previously had some emails back and forth that were not necessarily pleasant, probably some silly flame war of some sort that I can't remember. I was definitely young and stupid and this was the .com 90's!
When he was near me, I jokingly said: 'Hey Dave, bite me!" and a bunch of my friends started laughing. Mostly because they knew his reputation for flame wars. He immediately got over the top furious with me, said 'Never say that to me again!', walked away and we never spoke again.
Anyway, I just want to apologize, I shouldn't have said that.
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#4Thank you Dave Winer for creating RSS. For a while there, it seemed like we were on a path of making all data free, a truly decentralized web of information. I wish the internet would have continued on that route.
We can still get on track provided we do not get fascinated with Data Silos in the name of Social Media.
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#5Very underrated pioneer in a lot of areas.
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#6Thank you Dave Winer for creating RSS. For a while there, it seemed like we were on a path of making all data free, a truly decentralized web of information. I wish the internet would have continued on that route.
I use RSS multiple times a day through Feedly and Reeder. It is anything but dead.
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#7Thank you Dave Winer for creating RSS. For a while there, it seemed like we were on a path of making all data free, a truly decentralized web of information. I wish the internet would have continued on that route.
I use RSS multiple times a day through Feedly and Reeder. It is anything but dead.
Uh, sorta, kinda, I guess... It is a lot less alive than it should and could have been. Sure, you can set up your own web-server, install RSS reader on your phone and use RSS as a protocol to get updates of your cat coming in and out or whatever. But essentially all the major services heavily discourage its usage for the majority of users.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use RSS multiple times a day through Feedly and Reeder. It is anything but dead.
Uh, sorta, kinda, I guess... It is a lot less alive than it should and could have been. Sure, you can set up your own web-server, install RSS reader on your phone and use RSS as a protocol to get updates of your cat coming in and out or whatever. But essentially all the major services heavily discourage its usage for the majority of users.
You're both right.
Sure, you can use Feedly quite easily and a lot of sites, blogs, etc. still generate RSS feeds.
On the other hand, it's not really a first-class citizen, it's not available on major services that want eyeballs, subscription fees, etc. And, frankly, a lot of us have just mostly gotten out of the habit of using it because we figure we'll learn about most interesting or important stuff on social media in some manner.
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#9Here is a Dave story... I once wrote an early web server using his Frontier Scripting platform which ended up serving up a large corporate website that my company built. Crazy early days of the web. So, I got to 'know' Dave a bit online. One time I was at a bar (that no longer exists) in San Francisco at some MacWorld event in the 90's and Dave showed up. He and I had previously had some emails back and forth that we…
There is this famous scene from Howard Stern's movie Private Parts -
Howard: In a way that I gotta figure out what I'm gonna be. I mean, I don't want to be one of these disc jockeys that runs around the country, you know, looking for work all the time. I don't want to end up like that. It's so sad. It's so apparent to me now what I should be doing. I should be talking about my personal life. I've got to get intimate. And every time I feel like I shouldn't say something, maybe I should just say it, just blurt it out, you know? I just got to let things fly. I got to go all the way.
Alison: You didn't go all the way before?
Howard: No. I mean...No. A lot of times, I'm just holding back.
Alison: Then I guess you should go all the way.
When blogging first came about, lot's of people had the same realization. Because it works, in terms of connecting with people.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, sorta, kinda, I guess... It is a lot less alive than it should and could have been. Sure, you can set up your own web-server, install RSS reader on your phone and use RSS as a protocol to get updates of your cat coming in and out or whatever. But essentially all the major services heavily discourage its usage for the majority of users.
You're both right. Sure, you can use Feedly quite easily and a lot of sites, blogs, etc. still generate RSS feeds. On the other hand, it's not really a first-class citizen, it's not available on major services that want eyeballs, subscription fees, etc. And, frankly, a lot of us have just mostly gotten out of the habit of using it because we figure we'll learn about most interesting or important stuff on social media…
Perhaps we need to splinter the internet.
A second-citizen only internet.
A separate internet with strict open web considerations, federated protocols, rss, irc, or new updated things.