Male nanny here. Anyway, I was an education major and one my male professors would always stress to the males in the class that they should be extremely cautious when dealing with children (don't hold their hands, etc): The professor started out teaching first grade, and one time, a boy in his class came out of the bathroom with his pants down because he couldn't get them back up. Before the boy could even ask for he…
Eek, A Male
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Downvote the heretic! Unpopular opinions will not be tolerated! Oh, HN, you never fail to disappoint.
Public shaming is an appropriate response to prejudice. It's how we get from "that's common sense" to "does anyone really think that?"
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#93The case is extreme both in scope, gravity of the offenses, duration and in the position of trust the perpetrators were in and it will take a long long time for that to blow over again.
'Eek A Male' is very much a response heard around daycare centers here.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
More men are not needed in childcare/teaching because women are naturally - from birth - better at the type of empathy and communication that is required in those fields. It's the same reason that women excel in technology management roles (while generally being inferior in technical roles because of inadequate training or aptitude, exceptional cases like Marissa Mayer excepted). Even a woman with average communicati…
Are you saying women are, on average more empathethic/ have better communication skills, or women are innately 'guaranteed' to be better in these areas? Any man with the skills needed to perform well in childcare(especially) and teaching jobs are discouraged from taking those jobs, as any woman would 'naturally' be better in such roles (not to mention the significant 'pedo scare' barrier). This is the sort of latent…
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One of the better papers to read is http://www.ipt-forensics.com/library/female.htm It is specifically about lifting the lid on abuse perpetuated by females, and not a "cherry picked" story. Here's a site that is more numbers focused: http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html Here are some numbers: Nearly all the offenders in sexual assaults reported to law enforcement were male (96%). - Sexual Assault…
That's why we had to get rid of our German professor. Statistically there was a 7.5% risk he would gas the students (6 million Jews/80 Million Germans)
I can't give you any reassurance like that. I can't say that men with college degrees don't do it. That it hasn't happened in the US. Or has happened at all in the past 10 years or even past week.
There doesn't exist an objective measure, that I know of, that I can use to rationally reduce risk. Now I've left this open, and clearly stated "that I know of".
If you can show me a key piece of statistical evidence that I've missed that will make this clear, I'd be happy to see it. And I will make an effort to avoid Nazi daycare teachers.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree that men are better at disciplining children than women are.
I'm not saying always , but certainly at the schools I went to, the female teachers were by and large softer, and would let you get away with more. I think naturally, when faced with bad behavior women will try to empathize and reason, whereas men will tend to punish/kick into line.
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> The data bears this out I'd really appreciate a citation on that.
See my other post, which contains some. If you don't think those are satisfactory (and please state why), I have more.
I don't think the problem is the citations or the data, but rather the viewpoint.
Lets be clear, you don't want citations or data. You want me to change my mind.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Public shaming is an appropriate response to prejudice. It's how we get from "that's common sense" to "does anyone really think that?"
But perhaps not an appropriate response to scientific fact. Countless psychological studies have documented women's higher innate capacities for communication and empathy. So if you disagree on that fact, you are simply misinformed. What I'm saying might not be popular and might even sound prejudicial but there is no debating the innate genetic differences between men and women.
Okay, that's a cheap shot. I know you don't have any such study. Tell you what, I'll settle for any study demonstrating that the divergence between the mean of all women and the mean of all men is greater than the divergence between individuals of either gender.
In any metric.
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#99If a man is furiously yelling and striking a woman in public the police will be called on the man. If a woman is yelling and furiously slapping a man, the police will be called on the man.
Consider that: 1. Men receive stiffer sentences for the same crime.
2. Men are routinely ruined by family court, because of the instant trump card that an abuse accusation brings. Additionally they have few options when they are the victim of abuse.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the better papers to read is http://www.ipt-forensics.com/library/female.htm It is specifically about lifting the lid on abuse perpetuated by females, and not a "cherry picked" story. Here's a site that is more numbers focused: http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html Here are some numbers: Nearly all the offenders in sexual assaults reported to law enforcement were male (96%). - Sexual Assault…
1. Abuse > molestation. A woman can still horribly harm your child without sexual assault. 2. Regarding Mr. Abels quote, I think you'll find that female abusers go unreported more often precisely because of this bias. 3. Do you also avoid black people? Statistically they are much more likely to be criminals. So you only allow your family to be around white people right? Do you feel safer that way?
This is an excellent question. Do I avoid Black people? Honestly, there are some Black people I do avoid. The difference between "Black people" == criminals and male childcare workers == pedophile, is my ability to differentiate when I think those equalities are true in a specific instance.
The majority of crime by Blacks fits into a subset of the Black population that is distinguishable by a variety of factors. Not perfectly (not near perfectly), but close enough that I don't roll through certain areas of Detroit or BMore at 2am. I work with Blacks on the job, and they're no more likely to commit crime than Whites.
I seriously wish the same could be said of pedophiles. Seriously, I'd pay money for that ability. I don't have that ability or insight. If someone else does, more power to them, I'd love to know what you know.