They're trying to sell "simply beautiful" but all of the images on the front page have serious antialiasing problems.
Huh.
Introduction to Gnome 3
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#12I'm sorry, but that Metacity theme and even the GTK+ theme are really lacking. They lack the polish that Meerkat's Ambiance theme has (everytime I post a screenshot of stock 10.10 I get comments asking what the themes are). It's a shame, I think Gnome-Shell looks cool and I think GNOME3 brings a lot of UI/UX changes that have been needed for a while, but they're not doing themselves any favors giving the actual appea…
That is an old gtk theme. The GTK3 look fits better with the new titlebar http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakubsteiner/5201953378/sizes/o...
It's getting better, but that screenshot has plenty of it's own problems. That titlebar, menu, icon row and tabs takes up like 200+ px. Versus like 60 with Chrome.
What's the deal?
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#13Not that I want to beat up on a open source project, but for a desktop environment focused on ease of use, there are some very odd things overlooked.
1. How am I supposed to know what these icons do? Why even title them? https://img.skitch.com/20110118-biweei4eyuey217fisi7ks2d9f.p...
2. Eight of the eleven icons in the dock have significant title clipping. Did no one notice this? https://img.skitch.com/20110118-e1ykw7u3qf3gwmuhxaug28p5mr.p...
Usability isn't minimalism. It isn't translucent windows, rounded corners, or stark blacks and gradients. It's these details, and about a hundred others that I'll run into while using your software. These details can either add friction to whatever problem I'm trying to solve (and therefore add marginally to my bad mood), or they can remove it. If you don't ask these questions, you aren't even giving your users a chance.
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#14>Simply Beautiful? Seriously? Since when Beauty is that top priority for GUI? Usability, Gnome, Usability!
I don’t really see the contradiction.
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#15I'm amazed by how dumb and severe the icon label truncation is. That screams to me that it was designed without testing it with real content.
How can anyone see Network C…, Network P…, Network P… in the preference panel and not wonder if the truncation is too agressive?
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#16>Simply Beautiful? Seriously? Since when Beauty is that top priority for GUI? Usability, Gnome, Usability!
How much of the eye-candy (IM, etc.) is so woven into the desktop that it's impossible to remove? With OS X and Windows, I add the extraneous stuff - it doesn't come pre-installed and pre-enabled. I'll stick w/XFCE, thanks. It's based on Gnome, but it doesn't have the cruft.
What? In Windows 7, the contemporary version to GNOME 3, all the flashy effects come on by default - or at least they did on this machine. You have to turn them off if you don't want them. IIRC OSX is basically the same... isn't it a little counter-productive having a whole lot of pretty effects if they're off by default?
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#17Ubuntu's decision to move to Unity made me go back to Debian for GNOME/Clearlooks for the first time in a while, but what am I going to do now with the way GNOME 3 looks?
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#18A lot of effort has gone into this; it's a shame to see so many disparaging posts here. I think the developers should be applauded for their work.
Between this and Ubuntu's plans to adopt Wayland in place of X, there are some interesting times ahead for Linux on the desktop. I, for one, am looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
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#19Ubuntu's decision to move to Unity made me go back to Debian for GNOME/Clearlooks for the first time in a while, but what am I going to do now with the way GNOME 3 looks?
I'm totally with you on this one. XFCE is an excellent option to avoid this design madness.
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#20Not that I want to beat up on a open source project, but for a desktop environment focused on ease of use, there are some very odd things overlooked. 1. How am I supposed to know what these icons do? Why even title them? https://img.skitch.com/20110118-biweei4eyuey217fisi7ks2d9f.p... 2. Eight of the eleven icons in the dock have significant title clipping. Did no one notice this? https://img.skitch.com/20110118-e1ykw…
People like to beat up on MS a lot, but the differences between the Windows 7 GUI (or iOS GUI) and Gnome 3 really highlight the disadvantage that a bunch of spare-time developers who say to themselves, "well, I think our users will like text truncation, let's throw it in tomorrow!" are at versus a big company with millions to spend on thoughtful UI design, graphics, research, and focus groups.
Windows 7 has its problems too, but it's clear to me that the changes Gnome 3 is bringing are nothing more than what some out-of-touch developers think is what users want, without having actually asked users. Maybe I'm wrong on that assertion but that sure is the feeling I'm getting from this project.
Gnome 3 would have benefited greatly from a series of focus groups before development started or from snagging a high-profile UI expert to rap them on the knuckles whenever they had a bright idea like using 12 different font colors, sizes, and styles on the already-overwhelming dashboard screen.