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Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

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Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

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Current Columbia Student. Columbia's administration is absolutely terrible at cultivating any sense of school spirit. Some of this is a function of the fact that we're in NYC, but some of this can be laid at the hands of decisions like this, which are utterly tone-deaf. I love going here but I've had to work hard to create a sense of community.

Columbia '15 here, the existence of the marching band was the only thing that made me feel any sense of school spirit in my time there.

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

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post #13

Reading the article, it sounds like nothing prevents the band from doing all the things they used to do except perform at the football games. It also sounds like they are funded by the university to run around and prank others, which seems legitimate for the university to not shed any tears when the band drops the ball on its funding request. I’m sure it’s a fun tradition, but it also sounds potentially quite annoyin…

Performing at games is the main point of marching bands. Who wants to be in a band that can't perform?

It probably says a lot more about me than I want it to, but I was in a Big 10 marching band and didn't really care about the performances. I mean, it was enjoyable, but I might have done it even if we did all the same long rehearsals of the performances (we memorized the drill and music for ~7 shows a season) and then just went to the games as a pep band.

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

#23

Current Columbia Student. Columbia's administration is absolutely terrible at cultivating any sense of school spirit. Some of this is a function of the fact that we're in NYC, but some of this can be laid at the hands of decisions like this, which are utterly tone-deaf. I love going here but I've had to work hard to create a sense of community.

Columbia '15 here, the existence of the marching band was the only thing that made me feel any sense of school spirit in my time there.

g(tb)^2

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

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post #13

Reading the article, it sounds like nothing prevents the band from doing all the things they used to do except perform at the football games. It also sounds like they are funded by the university to run around and prank others, which seems legitimate for the university to not shed any tears when the band drops the ball on its funding request. I’m sure it’s a fun tradition, but it also sounds potentially quite annoyin…

Performing at games is the main point of marching bands. Who wants to be in a band that can't perform?

Indeed. This is the same playbook UVA used to kill its wonderful, creative, beloved Pep Band not so long ago.

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

#25

As a Columbia grad I'm not surprised at all... the Columbia Administration is insanely conservative. I have never experienced as entrenched of a bureaucracy as I did at Columbia!

Can you help me understand your comment? I can't tell if your making a connection between conservative and entrenched.

Conservative as in resistant to change, traditional. Not Conservative as in politics. You’d expect a conservative group to be entrenched.

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

#26

Looks like the money is not an issue, $25k a year. They'll raise that much but... https://www.columbiaspectator.com/sports/2019/10/04/marching...

What I don't get by reading the article is the link between (not) receiving funding from university and not being allowed to play on campus.

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you help me understand your comment? I can't tell if your making a connection between conservative and entrenched.

Conservative as in resistant to change, traditional. Not Conservative as in politics. You’d expect a conservative group to be entrenched.

> Conservative as in resistant to change

...but this article is about them making a change to their marching band rather than leaving it be as it has been for years?

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

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post #7

As a Columbia grad I'm not surprised at all... the Columbia Administration is insanely conservative. I have never experienced as entrenched of a bureaucracy as I did at Columbia!

I attended Columbia University’s College of Physicians and Surgeons in the late seventies and early eighties, and two groups who stood out were the Bard Hall Players and Columbia University Marching Band. They were made up of talented, creative and hilariously irreverent students. Come on, has the administration lost the ability to laugh? Who wrote Plato’s Republic? is pure gold just as Who’s buried in Grant’s tomb?

What are the two pieces you reference?

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

#29
> The band manager, Cameron Danesh-Pajou, a senior chemical engineering student, acknowledged the missed March 9 deadline, but said it was never presented as an ultimatum.

As a maintainer of realtime DSP/audio software I am forced to agree with the University in this case. If they let it slide even this once these kids would spend the rest of their lives making block calls and only ever measuring average performance to gauge their self worth.

Re: Columbia Silences Its Marching Band

#30

Current Columbia Student. Columbia's administration is absolutely terrible at cultivating any sense of school spirit. Some of this is a function of the fact that we're in NYC, but some of this can be laid at the hands of decisions like this, which are utterly tone-deaf. I love going here but I've had to work hard to create a sense of community.

Columbia '15 here, the existence of the marching band was the only thing that made me feel any sense of school spirit in my time there.

'12, same
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