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Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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Well, well, well suddenly it looks like everyone who is making money thanks to current status quo is withdrawing from initiative/opposing it. Probably it means that FB is doing something right... Question is if FB is strong/clever enough to keep moving forward.

Why were they in the initiative to start with then???

PR and to make it look bad by withdrawing, maybe.

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

#72

Surprising since David Marcus, the head of Libra, was once the CEO of Paypal.

Is it in PayPal's interest that Libra succeeds? It seems that they would be competitors. They might just have backed it strategically to somehow have a stake in it if it takes off big time. Given the pushback they could now bank on the whole thing failing instead.

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

#73

If Facebook attempts to become a money transfer service or bank without the required licensing, they will have their offices raided and their doors locked on them. This is something Governments don't tend to mess around with.

The licensing is not the issue. It is the middleman charging fees for simple transactions that they will totally skip. Building that before was hard but the blockchain solved that

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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Here are some wild predictions I'm making + Many (or potentially all of the backers except Facebook) will withdraw from the alliance. + Facebook/Zuckerberg will defy the gov.s and launch Libra. + Libra might not dominate the world, but it'll be a success (at least a niche success) and it'll eat up some of the marketshare of these financial institutions. I think Zuckerberg has come (or already know) to the realization…

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Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Where are Bitcoin's offices?

Bitcoin mining is actually quite centralized in a few players; and the exchanges have established offices. The gov.s could have done some serious damage. edit: nice try Satoshi!

So what you're saying is we will go raid unrelated folks? Where would you stop, would you also seize assets of people running non-mining nodes?

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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post #12

Here are some wild predictions I'm making + Many (or potentially all of the backers except Facebook) will withdraw from the alliance. + Facebook/Zuckerberg will defy the gov.s and launch Libra. + Libra might not dominate the world, but it'll be a success (at least a niche success) and it'll eat up some of the marketshare of these financial institutions. I think Zuckerberg has come (or already know) to the realization…

One of the drivers for the regulation is simply that the government is concerned about getting their piece of the pie. The regulatory fight will be interesting to watch, but I'm more interested in how Libra is going to affect the field of cryptocurrencies as a whole.

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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post #12

Here are some wild predictions I'm making + Many (or potentially all of the backers except Facebook) will withdraw from the alliance. + Facebook/Zuckerberg will defy the gov.s and launch Libra. + Libra might not dominate the world, but it'll be a success (at least a niche success) and it'll eat up some of the marketshare of these financial institutions. I think Zuckerberg has come (or already know) to the realization…

+1 for the first and second points, but I think it will play out much differently. Facebook will try to defy regulators, but I think the SEC will stomp on them, hard. It will end up a hybrid battle in the courts and Congress between libertarians, a few flavors of privacy advocates, US regulatory concerns, and ultimately land on US power projection concerns. I think the US will eventually shape the law and regulatory…

Sure Crypto backed by a particular company might not happen, but I don’t see BTC and similar P2P blockchain currencies going anywhere. It’s about as easy to stop as digital piracy, which is to say in other words physically impossible to regulate.

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The feds can come and shut down all of FB over money transmittal, they don't have to limit the shutdown to only the money parts. That's a huge risk to take. If Uber was shut down for violating taxi rules, they only had an unlicensed taxi business.

Is this the same feds who all have Facebook accounts, including their families, children, relatives, bosses, and so on? Including everything they buy, everything they look at, their location, and complete profiles of their personality, photos, photos that were taken OF them by other people, likes and dislikes, dirty secrets, and so on? It sure would be a shame if FBI directors in charge of such an investigation were…

Spy novels are a hell of a drug.

Re: Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency

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Libra can be a good idea, but probably not from Facebook.

What Facebook lacks among Big Techs the most, is public trust.

In an era where anything from Big Techs are meticulously scrutinized, something that seems to aim to bypass government regulation is probably the last thing people want.

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