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Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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>It took years to shed some of the residual behaviours, even after I started earning decent money. Despite having savings and reliable income I would still let bills run until they were overdue. You wouldn't believe how many "wealthy" people do the exact same thing including not paying their subcontractors etc. My dad used to do electric installations in new built homes. Usually the larger the house and the wealthier…

> In such situation paying 89 days late is perfectly reasonable. Nothing bad about it. huh? What about the contract you agreed to when you took on the service that says you'd pay within 30 days (or whatever). I really don't understand the logic that says as long as you're willing to accept the consequences, it's ok/moral. It's one thing to have extenuating circumstances that force someone to choose between two bad ch…

Which direction the playing field is tilted makes a big difference.

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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I'm sure there is a correlation, but I can't see how income could possibly be linked causally to brain function directly.

Eaten nothing but packets of ramen for months on end probably takes more of a toll on the brain than a light wallet.

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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It's interesting how "poor people are often stupid" triggers an outrage, but "stupid people are often poor" is seen as a logical statement.

People don't want to face cold hard truths. IQ is not perfect by any means, but one of the best predictors of overall success in life. Yet when it's overlapped with socioeconomic standing, it suddenly becomes a racist measurement.

What causes low IQ though? Just going to take a guess here and say that >People don't want to face cold hard truths.

Yeah, no shit. People are too busy trying to survive instead of trying to figure out life's "truths".

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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I'm sure there is a correlation, but I can't see how income could possibly be linked causally to brain function directly. Eaten nothing but packets of ramen for months on end probably takes more of a toll on the brain than a light wallet.

Isn't that a causal chain...?

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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Alternative (and to my mind more likely) hypothesis: poor brain health causes bad decision making and unstable income.

I was thinking the same, as an extra ingredient in the recipe. Nutrition and good health habits (avoid smoking, avoid excessive drinking of alcohol or sodas, sleep the necessary for your well-being, practice some sport, etc) are essentials you can't ignore.

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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Of course rotisserie chicken is just another form of fast food. You're proving the point!

It's as "fast" as bread and instant coffee. At least it's cheap, reasonably healthy and tasty.

It's not, actually, since it involves buying a microwave and waiting for things for cook... But more specifically, the above specifies cooking without relying on pre-made food like rotisserie, and you're proving the point that the cheap and healthy and tasty and easy choice is using pre-made food.

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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I went through a few years of unstable income in my early twenties (circa 2000), it wasn't altogether bad, just very very sporadic. When I think back on those years I had all kinds of bad behaviours that were not rational. For example, not paying bills because something more urgent might come up. Not looking at balances because it was easier to not know. I would go from feeling rich one month because a freelance clie…

And as a young person in your early 20's this is all bad enough, but I am going to read into it a little more and infer you were single. Now imagine if you had children to feed, the additional stress and additional expense probably would have broke you (financially, which happened anyway, and mentally). Not to mention knowing the effect of all this stress on your children and their developing minds. This study is an…

>Not to mention knowing the effect of all this stress on your children and their developing minds.

I believe Gabor Mate talks in depth on this particular topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9B5mYfBPlY is one interview, which references https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/129/2/e460?ss...

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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post #31

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>It took years to shed some of the residual behaviours, even after I started earning decent money. Despite having savings and reliable income I would still let bills run until they were overdue. You wouldn't believe how many "wealthy" people do the exact same thing including not paying their subcontractors etc. My dad used to do electric installations in new built homes. Usually the larger the house and the wealthier…

The key question is whether fees are levied. If you can drag your feet for 89 days and pay not one extra cent, then why wouldn't you?

Because the few dollars of interest you could make are not at all worth the hardship you place on someone who needs the principal.

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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post #127
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It took years to shed some of the residual behaviours, even after I started earning decent money. Despite having savings and reliable income I would still let bills run until they were overdue. You wouldn't believe how many "wealthy" people do the exact same thing including not paying their subcontractors etc. My dad used to do electric installations in new built homes. Usually the larger the house and the wealthier…

The key question is whether fees are levied. If you can drag your feet for 89 days and pay not one extra cent, then why wouldn't you?

Yeah, or if the extra fee is trivial, for that matter

Re: Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking problems in middle age

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I'm sure there is a correlation, but I can't see how income could possibly be linked causally to brain function directly. Eaten nothing but packets of ramen for months on end probably takes more of a toll on the brain than a light wallet.

Wouldn't a light wallet be the cause of a ramen diet?

Also, the stress of poverty is known to cause cognitive issues IIRC

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