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Pricing niche products

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You always end up buying more than one, despite their extreme durability.

Once you start looking at keyboards, you end up searching for the perfect one. I ended up with three...

This appeared on Reddit after I brought my first one. And while I had a good chuckle at myself, I haven't purchased another one in the year or so that has since passed.

https://pics.me.me/see-a-small-apartment-i-see-you-alone-fur...

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I'm in the $600+ club too (Kepler that has a full brass bottom weight 6+kg, Kepler 65 with it's forged carbon top etc.)

It's a really strange hobby. A bunch of people who really value and love keyboards, the thing that sits between a human and a computer, a tool that many (developers, writers, gamers) use every day for hours on end.

Similar to how someone might invest in a nice knife if they love cooking, luxury-priced tools are quite a common category you see in hobbies.

The community is nice, and the pursuit of "endgame" continually drives supply, demand and the prices that go along with it up consistently. Next year, I wouldn't be surprised if we see several new $1000+ keyboards playing around with new finishes, materials and designs that cater to the high end of the hobby.

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I have a $600+ keyboard so I'm a part of this hobby. However, only a part of this can be explained by the expense of manufacturing at a small scale. The hobby fully embraces the drawbacks of the small scale and intentionally does nothing to try to improve it because the exclusivity drives prices up to an insane point. A typical group buy for a popular case sells out in minutes or days time after time. Clearly some of…

>the diminishing returns show up hard and fast in this hobby. Of course that's true with lots of things. Cameras, audio equipment, video gear. Whenever I go into B&H Photo in NYC I'm always struck by how quickly the prices go up as you transition from pretty serviceable amateur gear to the pro stuff.

Yea, not a photography guy but I have friends that are and its a bottomless rabbit hole of cool shit to spend money on.

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What, really, are the benefits? I used a friend's mechanical keyboard and it felt nice. Is that it? Is it necessary to spend 100s to get a good one? The whole thing seems insane to me. No judgement, I spend money on other stuff, it just doesn't make sense to me personally. I typed this on a mac keyboard people seem to hate, so maybe it's Stockholm syndrome.

It's not necessary but as someone who spends several hours per day typing, spending a few hundred pounds on something that's comfortable, accurate and a pleasure to use is worth every penny.

It's uncustomised and I use it with a wooden wrist rest, I prefer the no-markings version because I touch type and it looks super-minimal on my desk and nearly symmetrical.

I settled on a HHKB. It's just about perfect for me

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It's disappointing how so much money is being poured into "mechanical keyboard kits" that simply re-create the old ANSI/ISO layouts that are rooted in old limitations from the days of the typewriter. Alternate layouts & ortholinear/ergonomic designs should be the forefront of the movement. All this focus on outdated designs makes the community "accessible" but also holds people back. The emergence of row-staggered 40…

A few alternate layouts on display at: http://romly.com/archives/2019/05/tokyomk6_en.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20113224

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I think the author underestimates how amateurish many people selling keyboard parts are (i.e. rarely fully or never committed to the work as their employment, and without any experience in sales, manufacturing, marketing, distribution). Optimizing pricing or marketing strategies is not, afaict, deeply considered. Money is consistently left on the table. Look into the madness of first-party 'artisan' keycap sales, for example.

To be fair, there's nothing really wrong with this, since it is just a hobby for most people involved, and these sorts of products really often are just making something you want to exist and selling a few more to meet minimum order quantity.

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What, really, are the benefits? I used a friend's mechanical keyboard and it felt nice. Is that it? Is it necessary to spend 100s to get a good one? The whole thing seems insane to me. No judgement, I spend money on other stuff, it just doesn't make sense to me personally. I typed this on a mac keyboard people seem to hate, so maybe it's Stockholm syndrome.

I feel the same about your mac - 100s spent unnecessarily. Each to their own!

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I hate to nitpick but I assume you want to know:

"I cannot understate the benefits of knowing the demand curve."

I think you mean

"I cannot overstate the benefits of knowing the demand curve."

Because you seem to imply that it is a good thing to know the demand curve.

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What, really, are the benefits? I used a friend's mechanical keyboard and it felt nice. Is that it? Is it necessary to spend 100s to get a good one? The whole thing seems insane to me. No judgement, I spend money on other stuff, it just doesn't make sense to me personally. I typed this on a mac keyboard people seem to hate, so maybe it's Stockholm syndrome.

You make the keyboard feel the way _you_ want it: https://i.imgur.com/3UoZ6VZ.png

It is truly a different (and in my opinion, far superior) experience. If I have to use a tool all day long, why would I not want the best tool?

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