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Making My Own Glasses

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Re: Making My Own Glasses

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> Optician: “Now with this lens, do you see better or worse?”

> O: “Honestly, I have no clue. Maybe. Maybe not? The letters look similar but different.”

[edit] Reprahsing to make it clearer:

will it be possible in the future to measure objectively?

Re: Making My Own Glasses

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> Optician: “Now with this lens, do you see better or worse?” > O: “Honestly, I have no clue. Maybe. Maybe not? The letters look similar but different.” [edit] Reprahsing to make it clearer: will it be possible in the future to measure objectively?

> isn't it an objective way to measure it

No it's subjective - I think that's the main point of the article.

Re: Making My Own Glasses

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This is clearly a case where the sole act of him sharpening his own perception of what glases do resulted in him getting better glases.

I work freelance as a colorist and re-recording mixer – both are professions which are highly based on perception. And it is certainly true: if you try to really go into the details of something, be it color, sound or anything else, it already helps a lot if you sharpen your senses to these things. I always say: you don't pay me for beeing able to use some software, you pay me for having developed my senses over years in a way that others didn't.

Re: Making My Own Glasses

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Fascinating hacker story in an unexpected domain. Thank you!

A side note about "getting your numbers"... The author remarks, "she’s not happy to share the measurements with me as she fears I’ll run off and get my glasses made online".

This will obviously vary by jurisdiction but what the author describes may be illegal in some places. e.g. where I live, there is a law since 2010 requiring opticians and optometrists "to give clients, free of charge, a copy of their prescription, sight-test assessment or contact-lens specifications — whether or not it is requested by the client — and also to give a copy, free of charge, to a third-party eyewear seller or other person if requested by the client"[1]

[1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-changes-...

Re: Making My Own Glasses

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> Optician: “Now with this lens, do you see better or worse?” > O: “Honestly, I have no clue. Maybe. Maybe not? The letters look similar but different.” [edit] Reprahsing to make it clearer: will it be possible in the future to measure objectively?

> isn't it an objective way to measure it No it's subjective - I think that's the main point of the article.

I know, I though it might a very expensive but precise way to measure that with time or new tech could become afrodable.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> isn't it an objective way to measure it No it's subjective - I think that's the main point of the article.

I know, I though it might a very expensive but precise way to measure that with time or new tech could become afrodable.

> I know, I though it might a very expensive but precise way to measure that with time or new tech could become afrodable.

No it's imprecise - again that's a key point of the article. The author finds that there's a lot of variance in the measurements obtained.

Re: Making My Own Glasses

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> Optician: “Now with this lens, do you see better or worse?” > O: “Honestly, I have no clue. Maybe. Maybe not? The letters look similar but different.” [edit] Reprahsing to make it clearer: will it be possible in the future to measure objectively?

Since vision happens mostly in the brain, simply selecting a lens which focusing light at a certain point in your eye is not the only thing to optimize for. You also have to optimize for the processor behind the sensor which, at least until more advanced vision models are made, is going to be purely subjective.

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So, anyone read the manual for the measurment instruments used and investigated what is the specified error of measurement?

Maybe variation can be attributed to that.

Re: Making My Own Glasses

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> As a doctor I know some things about the human eye so I understand how to use those lenses. However, I have no clue about the magic ritual of the optician (“Do you see better with this lens?” - selects random lens and holds it in front of my eye).

>Luckily, I didn’t have to.

There's a specific reason why they do this and ask you to make a decision in an instant. It's called accommodation. Your eyes will quickly try and accommodate and find focus if they're allowed to stare too long. This could explain the reason he got such different results from the exams. He was trying too hard. Just follow directions.

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> One more thing. Do you remember the process in which an optician makes you wear a new pair of glasses and stares at you with this optician-look, takes the pair of glasses away from you again, goes to the back office and starts bending parts of it in a seemingly random manner, comes back, hands you the pair of glasses which now suddenly fit perfectly?

> Yeah, I attempted to do that with my new pair of glasses and noticed that I suck at it. I would bend it to look similar like the glasses from the optician only to realize that the back of my ears were hurting after a few hours of wear.

Is he really a Doctor??? He doesn't know there's a Mastoid bone there that the "bending" (aka: Adjusting) the optician is doing is to AVOID putting pressure on that bone!?

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