Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
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Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#2I don't see anything in the article about how they differentiated instances of "saw but failed to remember" from constant bearing decreasing range accidents which are well known. How is this different?
Edit: Why the downvotes? Is my question probing at something people find incompatible with their ideology?
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#3> "If you're at a junction and you see a motorcyclist coming, just say 'bike,'" he said. "That puts it into an extra form of verbal short-term memory and you know you'll still remember it's there seconds later."
It's really nice they can come up with a simple rule to sidestep the issue with our short term memory or attention glitching out like that.
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#4> "If you're at a junction and you see a motorcyclist coming, just say 'bike,'" he said. "That puts it into an extra form of verbal short-term memory and you know you'll still remember it's there seconds later." It's really nice they can come up with a simple rule to sidestep the issue with our short term memory or attention glitching out like that.
like shisa kanko or "pointing and calling"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#5My first thought was that the motorcyclist in the picture almost deserves to be hit for driving illegally and dangerously between two cars - ie lane splitting.
But from the comments, it does seem to be legal some places. But, in all other states in the US besides CA, it is explicitly illegal. It still seems unsafe even it is legal.
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#6My first thought was that the motorcyclist in the picture almost deserves to be hit for driving illegally and dangerously between two cars - ie lane splitting. But from the comments, it does seem to be legal some places. But, in all other states in the US besides CA, it is explicitly illegal. It still seems unsafe even it is legal.
It's legal in the UK for good reasons, in the event of the car behind not stopping you won't be crushed between the two cars.
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#7> "If you're at a junction and you see a motorcyclist coming, just say 'bike,'" he said. "That puts it into an extra form of verbal short-term memory and you know you'll still remember it's there seconds later." It's really nice they can come up with a simple rule to sidestep the issue with our short term memory or attention glitching out like that.
like shisa kanko or "pointing and calling" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling
When i saw that for the first time (in a tram in Nagasaki, as I recall) I first thought the driver is a few fries short of a happy meal. It looks so weird to Western eyes.
Then later reading up about it it actually makes a lot of sense.
Some more material to read up on it:
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pointing-and-calling-j...
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#8I don't see anything in the article about how they differentiated instances of "saw but failed to remember" from constant bearing decreasing range accidents which are well known. How is this different? Edit: Why the downvotes? Is my question probing at something people find incompatible with their ideology?
from the article:
> Chapman always sent two vehicles from opposite sides of the road during those trials — either a car and a car, or a car and a motorcycle. Then, right after the participant pulled out, he would stop the test and ask them to use a laser pointer to point where the oncoming vehicle(s) had been on the screen.
> What Chapman found was that, every once in a while, there were instances where the driver had failed to report seeing the motorcycle and the car, even though an eye tracking device showed that they clearly looked at the oncoming vehicles. But he also found that participants were much more likely to miss the motorcyclist than the car driver.
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#9My first thought was that the motorcyclist in the picture almost deserves to be hit for driving illegally and dangerously between two cars - ie lane splitting. But from the comments, it does seem to be legal some places. But, in all other states in the US besides CA, it is explicitly illegal. It still seems unsafe even it is legal.
Its actually safer, if you bothered to google that either.
Re: Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget motorcyclists
#10I had an accident two months ago where something similar happened:
I was waiting on my bike for an opening at a roundabout (rotary for US?) and the car behind me who saw me (he later confirmed it) started looking for a good timing to drive into the roundabout too and forgot about me.
He then started accelerating to drive into the roundabout just behind another car while I was still right in front of him. He completely destroyed my bike (which fell under me so I could walk aside and be safe) without noticing anything.
So.. yeah, the "see bike, say bike" rule seem nice and not a big deal. Please consider trying it :)