I'm amazed by how professional PR/Community Management/marketing people can be so tone-deaf. Especially when they don't post this by themselves, but on behalf of, and most certainly with a lot of discussion in, the company.
An Update to Our Community and an Apology
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Re: An Update to Our Community and an Apology
#22Perhaps the most striking thing here is the surety of all these responses, it’s all nefarious, lies, sleight of hand.
I can at least sympathize with not being told what you did wrong, but this is still a he-said-she-said case. Until either SE or Monica releases details, the only two people who know are SE and her.
Re: An Update to Our Community and an Apology
#23Perhaps the most striking thing here is the surety of all these responses, it’s all nefarious, lies, sleight of hand. I can at least sympathize with not being told what you did wrong, but this is still a he-said-she-said case. Until either SE or Monica releases details, the only two people who know are SE and her.
Monica already posted everything from her side here:
https://judaism.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5193/stack-...
Or is there some specific piece of information you feel she is withholding?
Re: An Update to Our Community and an Apology
#24Perhaps the most striking thing here is the surety of all these responses, it’s all nefarious, lies, sleight of hand. I can at least sympathize with not being told what you did wrong, but this is still a he-said-she-said case. Until either SE or Monica releases details, the only two people who know are SE and her.
Monica already posted everything from her side here: https://judaism.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5193/stack-... Or is there some specific piece of information you feel she is withholding?
She posted her side of the story, with no material backing information making, as I’ve said, a he-said-she-said tale. We don’t know anything material of the exchange. Yet everyone feels compelled to assume bad faith on SE’s part.
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#25SE’s actions seem heavy-handed to say the least, and to be fair it is a private platform dictated by their own rules - but what this will lead to is disillusionment within the community and honestly I feel this has been a long time coming.
If neither the mods nor users feel heard, who does this “platform” serve?
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#26SE’s actions seem heavy-handed to say the least, and to be fair it is a private platform dictated by their own rules - but what this will lead to is disillusionment within the community and honestly I feel this has been a long time coming. If neither the mods nor users feel heard, who does this “platform” serve?
The corporation that owns it?
Re: An Update to Our Community and an Apology
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Monica already posted everything from her side here: https://judaism.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5193/stack-... Or is there some specific piece of information you feel she is withholding?
She posted her side of the story, with no material backing information making, as I’ve said, a he-said-she-said tale. We don’t know anything material of the exchange. Yet everyone feels compelled to assume bad faith on SE’s part.
This is basically guilt determined by a closed court in which the accused has no representation and no reason is given for the judgement, and in fact even the rule they've been found guilty of isn't disclosed, even to them.
So what is it exactly that they've done to earn any benefit of the doubt?
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#28It's interesting how organisations seem to lead towards these awful places.
It could be you only hear about the ones who allow nefarious factions gain control, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Often it's an outsider who inserts the poison then internally they melt down.
It's rare organisations stand against lynch mobs like cancel culture, here it seems internally driven.
It might be no more than a meme that cancel culture is powerful and has to be respected. Evidence is, if you ignore it, generally it will go away, but memes have power.
Re: An Update to Our Community and an Apology
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
She posted her side of the story, with no material backing information making, as I’ve said, a he-said-she-said tale. We don’t know anything material of the exchange. Yet everyone feels compelled to assume bad faith on SE’s part.
This is basically guilt determined by a closed court in which the accused has no representation and no reason is given for the judgement, and in fact even the rule they've been found guilty of isn't disclosed, even to them. So what is it exactly that they've done to earn any benefit of the doubt?
It’s a private website, not the US Supreme Court. Try applying that same standard on HN!
They’ve done nothing to earn my doubt, I don’t start from an assumption of guilt as you do.
Y’all are some toxic reactionary shits. Thanks for the reminder of why I quit this site the first time buddy!
Stay salty, HN!
Re: An Update to Our Community and an Apology
#30>Last week we made an important decision for our community. We removed a moderator for repeatedly violating our existing Code of Conduct and being unwilling to accept our CM’s repeated requests to change their behavior.
Hang on a sec...
>their behaviour.
Wasn't monica fired for suggesting she used gender neutral pronouns generally? Because they said she should use the preferred gender specific pronoun when known?
And now "Sara Chipps" is doing exactly that?!