Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by atestu » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 5:55 PM UTC

Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple
openid.net

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by heyoni » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:17 PM UTC

Weren’t there some issues with their implementation of openid that the community was clamoring for Apple to fix? Did that ever happen?

/edit instead of reading the article I went back to look for the old hn post :X somebody delete this, it’s embarrassing

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by damvigilante » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:18 PM UTC

heyoni wrote: post #2

Weren’t there some issues with their implementation of openid that the community was clamoring for Apple to fix? Did that ever happen? /edit instead of reading the article I went back to look for the old hn post :X somebody delete this, it’s embarrassing

Yes, they've fixed the majority of them, that's what this update is about.

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by heyoni » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:19 PM UTC

So they actually responded by fixing those issues? I wonder if they went as far delaying the release for that. If that’s the case, +1 to Apple for privacy

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by jsgo » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:22 PM UTC

has sign in with Apple launched yet? It was the Big Thing in iOS 13 that I was personally most excited about but honestly, if it has launched, I haven't seen it yet.

edit: from the comments it sounds like it has launched, but currently being implemented in a voluntary manner. Looked at the 9to5Mac article on iOS 13 support of apps and it looks like I just don't use any of them unfortunately.

Love the idea still and hoping it gains heavily in adoption.

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Post by ninkendo » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:23 PM UTC

jsgo wrote: post #5

has sign in with Apple launched yet? It was the Big Thing in iOS 13 that I was personally most excited about but honestly, if it has launched, I haven't seen it yet. edit: from the comments it sounds like it has launched, but currently being implemented in a voluntary manner. Looked at the 9to5Mac article on iOS 13 support of apps and it looks like I just don't use any of them unfortunately. Love the idea still and h…

I know of at least one app that uses it (Ten Percent Happier).

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by floatingatoll » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

The working document linked to by this press release:

https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/src/default/How-Sign-in...

Since September 2019 all spec violations have been addressed by Apple, as recorded in the next section. The section thereafter - "Peculiarities" lists specific implementation choices by Apple that differ from what most implementations provide, but are not spec violations per se.

The previous HN discussion about the spec violations:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20311000

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by djsumdog » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

So I don't currently use Apple products, does this mean that people can use their own OpenID Connect identity providers with Apple (like if I run an Open ID Connect server at idp.example.com, I can add it as an authentication source) or is this just for using Apple's Identity Provider to allow your own apps to log-in via your Apple account?

Open ID Connect is essentially a an OAuth2 implementation. The original Open ID 1.0 concept, where you could use any identity provider with any service provider, is pretty much dead:

https://battlepenguin.com/tech/the-decline-of-openid/

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by Kikawala » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:31 PM UTC

jsgo wrote: post #5

has sign in with Apple launched yet? It was the Big Thing in iOS 13 that I was personally most excited about but honestly, if it has launched, I haven't seen it yet. edit: from the comments it sounds like it has launched, but currently being implemented in a voluntary manner. Looked at the 9to5Mac article on iOS 13 support of apps and it looks like I just don't use any of them unfortunately. Love the idea still and h…

Houzz[1] as of version 19.10.2 uses Sign in with Apple.

[1]https://apps.apple.com/us/app/houzz-home-design-remodel/id39...

Re: Apple Successfully Implements OpenID Connect with Sign in with Apple

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Post by Gaelan » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 6:34 PM UTC

jsgo wrote: post #5

has sign in with Apple launched yet? It was the Big Thing in iOS 13 that I was personally most excited about but honestly, if it has launched, I haven't seen it yet. edit: from the comments it sounds like it has launched, but currently being implemented in a voluntary manner. Looked at the 9to5Mac article on iOS 13 support of apps and it looks like I just don't use any of them unfortunately. Love the idea still and h…

Apple was planning on making SIWA support mandatory, but pushed that back to 2020.