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A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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>When the proportion of meatless options doubled from one to two of four choices, overall sales remained about constant. But sales of meat-containing meals dropped, and sales of vegetarian meals, such as “wild mushroom, roasted butternut squash and sun blushed tomato risotto with parmesan”, rose 40–80%. So they cut the available meat options and doubled the available vegetarian options and find it surprising they sol…

I often choose the vegetarian option when eating out simply because I know how to grill a steak or roast some chicken at home— I can make those meals just as well as they can, and for half the cost or less. When I see multiple vegetarian meal options, that's a signal that the chef isn't just doing a low effort protein swap-out but is actually offering something tasty and interesting, and I'm interested to try it.

Huh. I do the opposite—I order meat out (not always, but sometimes) and rarely cook it at home. I can and every now and then do make good dishes with meat, but find it fussy, messy, and very expensive if you screw it up. Plus I have trouble with the leftovers (leftover chicken almost always has a really, really bad flavor to me, for example).

Veggies have their own PITA issues, of course. I just prefer to put up with those rather than those and meat's issues, in my home kitchen & pantry.

[EDIT] another factor's that I don't really care for most cheap meats. Ground beef? Eh, no. Shredded chicken from a can? God no. Cheap fish available this far from the ocean? I'll pass. Carne asada (expensive these days), a great steak, good sushi? Hell yes. But I'll leave it to the pros so I don't wreck an expensive piece of meat, no more often than I get that particular craving.

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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Speaking from personal experience, I've been eating a lot more plant-based meals now that Beyond and Impossible Beef are available in grocery stores. I wouldn't say I'm completely vegetarian but I'm 60% there.

I was so excited about the Impossible Burger at Burger King. But I made the mistake of ordering it and a regular Whopper for comparison. I tried the Impossible Burger and thought wow, this is amazingly delicious. Then I took a bite of a Whopper and realized that the Impossible Burger will never be able to replace this. You could make the world's best vegetarian burger and some discount meat from the local dollar stor…

I have not had that experience. Impossible Whopper has been amazing to me.

Additionally, Burger King definitely doesn't make the best Impossible Burger (and not every Impossible Whopper tastes the same--like regular burgers, there's slight variation in quality depending on who is at the grill). I had it at a local restaurant, and it was one of the best burgers I've ever had.

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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How do you ethically and without cruelty keep then kill an animal that doesn't want to die usually 20% or less into its natural life span? > That said, when you raise a cow and you know you are going to eat it most folks aren't so cruel. Kosher meats ( i have heard this ) are harvested with ethical methods. https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-is-kosher-slaugh... > For meat to be Kosher, the animal must be sla…

>If that's correct, how is that not cruel? Animals don't want to die The animal will die regardless. The Native Americans would honor the animal and thank its spirit for the life force. To me that seems quite ethical.

> The animal will die regardless.

You don't have to kill the animal or breed animals to be killed. You're choosing for that to happen.

> The Native Americans would honor the animal and thank its spirit for the life force.

Why does that make killing something that doesn't want to be killed okay? Would that making killing a dog or human okay if you thanked their spirit after?

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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The dish mentioned sounds far better than what is usually served as vegetarian food at canteens and restaurants. Quite often they offer just a compilation of side-dishes to have something vegetarian on their menu. (Dumblings with red cabbage and - wait for it - gravy from roasting meat is a widespread menu offer for vegetarians in southern Germany. Not sure if it counts as vegetarian option though). Once people notic…

POV: Omnivore with a (previously) vegetarian spouse. We generally ate veg @ home One of my biggest issues with modern veg diets is all of the veg food trying to masquerade as other food. Soy bacon does not taste like, or taste as good as, real bacon. Tofu and Boca burgers do not taste like actual meat. But tofu and the like can taste amazing on its own merit . It's an ingredient with it's own flavors and textures, so…

Absolutely this. I never met a vegetable I didn't like and there are tons of great vegetarian dishes and maybe its 100% mental but the moment you try to turn a non-vegetarian dish into a vegetarian dish, and especially if you try to use a meat substitute, its over.

I'd hate to think this is true but perhaps vegetarians go so long they forget what things taste like but some of these meat substitutes are straight up disgusting and I don't know why people even bother with them.

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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POV: Omnivore with a (previously) vegetarian spouse. We generally ate veg @ home One of my biggest issues with modern veg diets is all of the veg food trying to masquerade as other food. Soy bacon does not taste like, or taste as good as, real bacon. Tofu and Boca burgers do not taste like actual meat. But tofu and the like can taste amazing on its own merit . It's an ingredient with it's own flavors and textures, so…

Agreed. The vegetarian things I eat, taste nice, and just happen to be vegetarian, they're not meat replaced with Quorn. Additionally, one thing I don't understand, up until recently animal rights seems to have been the main driver behind vegetarianism. If you're morally against eating pig, why would you want to eat something that pretends to be pig?

If you're morally against killing people, why would you want to play a game about killing people?

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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The hardest part is if you’re trying to lose weight and be vegetarian, especially if you don’t eat eggs. (Milk okay, Indian vegetarian)

What I call the “protein costs” are just too high, that is, how much does a gram of protein cost me in terms of a gram of carbs or grams of fat.

Lean Meat has almost almost no protein cost (that is it is almost pure protein with no fat and no carbs...)

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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The dish mentioned sounds far better than what is usually served as vegetarian food at canteens and restaurants. Quite often they offer just a compilation of side-dishes to have something vegetarian on their menu. (Dumblings with red cabbage and - wait for it - gravy from roasting meat is a widespread menu offer for vegetarians in southern Germany. Not sure if it counts as vegetarian option though). Once people notic…

POV: Omnivore with a (previously) vegetarian spouse. We generally ate veg @ home One of my biggest issues with modern veg diets is all of the veg food trying to masquerade as other food. Soy bacon does not taste like, or taste as good as, real bacon. Tofu and Boca burgers do not taste like actual meat. But tofu and the like can taste amazing on its own merit . It's an ingredient with it's own flavors and textures, so…

I'm not vegetarian and I agree with you 100%. That said my favorite sandwich in the world is a fake soy turkey avocado sandwich at Jan's Health Food Bar in Huntington Beach California. It would taste worse with real turkey IMO.

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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Missing is how meat-free options will generate new business.

I'm not a vegetarian but I am the sort of person who would never eat a Whopper b/c it's garbage meat. Hadn't eaten in BK for probably a decade.

I ate an Impossible Whopper and I'm gonna be eating BK a lot more often.

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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Where do you think supermarkets get food ? This is the disconnect so many people have.

The point was we can live long and healthy lives by going to the supermarket and buying non-meat food. We can survive now without making animals needlessly suffer (including paying others to kill animals on our behalf). Some carnivorous wild animals have no choice but to hunt and eat prey alive to survive. We have a choice.

I choose to eat animals. You choose to eat plants.

Question is why do you want plants to taste like animals and it was answered. Some folks don’t like killing.

I don’t mind taking an animals life to eat. Therein lies the difference

Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals

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Missing is how meat-free options will generate new business. I'm not a vegetarian but I am the sort of person who would never eat a Whopper b/c it's garbage meat. Hadn't eaten in BK for probably a decade. I ate an Impossible Whopper and I'm gonna be eating BK a lot more often.

I won't eat at BK because they used a shrink ray on all their sandwiches. They also ruined American Tim Horton's menu.
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