Would someone who is a vegan answer this question I have and I mean no offense by it. Why do you want to eat vegetables that are fake meat or made to taste like meat ? It seems silly to me.
It's like drinking a Coke zero, isn't it?
A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
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Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#82The thing is, you don't need to be entirely vegetarian to have a big impact on your environmental footprint, etc. Many meals can do well, or even be improved, by having 'much less meat'. After all, meat has been a sign of prosperity for a long time, and so it's been stuffed into many recipes that probably don't need it, or that need much less of it than curretly practiced. 'less-itarian', if you like.
There's actually a word for what you describe : flexitarian
Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#83Would someone who is a vegan answer this question I have and I mean no offense by it. Why do you want to eat vegetables that are fake meat or made to taste like meat ? It seems silly to me.
I like the taste of meat, I like the taste of eggs, texture of yogurt, I like the taste of practically all foods. I do not like the fact that cow, chicken, pig, dog, have to die for my tastebuds to feel nice. Given that I like the tastes I like and do not want to give them up, I'll rather be calm and eat something that tastes like meat but there's no death of an animal. That's it. Could I live without veggie sausages…
Thank you for the answer.
Philosophically I understand you dont want to contribute to the death of an animal, that said, birth causes death.
I am of the opinion folks should eat what they want and only worry about what they eat. Letting others eat what they want.
Personally I don't do well on veggies. I lose energy and feel lethargic not to mention carbs make me fat.
Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#84Uh, no. I'll stick with meat in order to ensure that my brain and other organs keeps working as they should. I'm not worried about colesterol and fat; I'd prefer more of it actually. Thanks.
Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I travel to Europe about once a year and I've noticed they're far behind the US in terms of vegetarian options. In the US it's been easy to get a high quality, vegetarian meal at almost any restaurant for at least a decade (edit: at least in metro areas; perhaps rural areas are different, although I haven't noticed this personally). Meanwhile in Europe it's almost impossible to get anything resembling a full meal. Li…
Where is “Europe”? London? Athens? Budapest? Kyiv? The availability of vegetarian-friendly food varies drastically from city to city. Half of the cities in this list of “Top Vegan Cities” are in Europe: London, Berlin, Warsaw, Paris, and Prague. https://www.happycow.net/vegtopics/travel/top-vegan-friendly...
And London is the #1 city as well. Is that person just trying to throw shade on Europe?
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#86>When the proportion of meatless options doubled from one to two of four choices, overall sales remained about constant. But sales of meat-containing meals dropped, and sales of vegetarian meals, such as “wild mushroom, roasted butternut squash and sun blushed tomato risotto with parmesan”, rose 40–80%. So they cut the available meat options and doubled the available vegetarian options and find it surprising they sol…
I often choose the vegetarian option when eating out simply because I know how to grill a steak or roast some chicken at home— I can make those meals just as well as they can, and for half the cost or less. When I see multiple vegetarian meal options, that's a signal that the chef isn't just doing a low effort protein swap-out but is actually offering something tasty and interesting, and I'm interested to try it.
> When I see multiple vegetarian meal options, that's a signal that [...]
I use whether it's called something like 'vegetarian ' (as a signal for the reverse).
I don't want a 'vegetarian lasagne', or 'vegetarian burger'.
A slightly different but similarly ridiculous one is 'vegetarian chili con carne', which means 'vegetarian chili with meat'.
Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#87Would someone who is a vegan answer this question I have and I mean no offense by it. Why do you want to eat vegetables that are fake meat or made to taste like meat ? It seems silly to me.
I am curious, and also don't mean any offense by it: why is this surprising or even silly to you? Has it been your believe so far that a major driver behind avoiding meet is the taste or texture?
The thing I find silly is if you dont like eating animals or causing their death why eat fake animal meat ?
It's like abstaining from sex by using a sex doll in my mind.
Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#88Would someone who is a vegan answer this question I have and I mean no offense by it. Why do you want to eat vegetables that are fake meat or made to taste like meat ? It seems silly to me.
> Why do you want to eat vegetables that are fake meat or made to taste like meat ?
Why do people on diets eat low calorie desserts?
The same way people go on diets because they want to lose weight but not to avoid the taste of food they like, people go vegan because of environmental and animal cruelty reasons but not to avoid the taste of food they like.
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#89A friend was in China (Being and Shanghai) and Japan (Tokyo) very recently and complained about the lack of vegetarian options. In fact one of the participants in the journey was forced to eat meat because there were no other options.
No tofu?
Re: A rise in vegetarian options leads customers to embrace meat-free meals
#90The dish mentioned sounds far better than what is usually served as vegetarian food at canteens and restaurants. Quite often they offer just a compilation of side-dishes to have something vegetarian on their menu. (Dumblings with red cabbage and - wait for it - gravy from roasting meat is a widespread menu offer for vegetarians in southern Germany. Not sure if it counts as vegetarian option though). Once people notic…
Even vegan restaurants hardly sell good food. In their attempt to make a shoddy substitute for meat dishes, they completely butcher the innate capabilities of the vegetables. I know that sounds a bit snooty, but western cuisines simply do not lend themselves well to vegetarian ingredients. India is obviously the most familiar with good veg food, but most cuisines in Asia have good vegetarian offerings. Everything fro…
> What we need is for people to become slightly adventurous in the way they eat, and stop living in their food bubbles.
If the choice is between inventing food picky people are willing to eat, and making people less picky, inventing food seems far easier. (See also: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/10/society-is-fixed-biolo...)