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China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains

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Re: China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains

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20190820234322 wrote: post #58
anovikov wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other, and actually main, reason is that good public transport decreases cost of land, it is basically designed to do so: it makes more places liveable/jobs reachable, so there is effectively more land for the same amount of people. So everyone will vote against or they lose their pensions. Want to fix this? Sure, easy, just scrap the democracy and just don't ask people, send those who object, to "re-education" camps…

Just a heads-up: This person has posted at least 12 pro-China comments in the past year by my count. Extremely suspicious.

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saberience wrote: post #28

So, as someone that lived in New York for 6 years and California for 6 years, stories like this are incredibly depressing. The US is the world's largest economy and should be the shining example of amazing infrastructure, high-tech, green cities, and forward thinking policies. California is an especially egregious example in terms of infrastructure investment: If California was a country it would be the world's fifth…

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Re: China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains

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Post by hojijoji »

gnode wrote: post #52

1,000km/h is within what is conventionally considered transonic (965-1235km/h). I wonder how practical these speeds are without a containing tunnel, particularly on the ground where there is potential for damage to buildings, structures, wildlife, etc. from sonic booms. Additionally, as I understand it, reflecting objects and terrain at ground level increase the potential for generation of sonic booms at transonic sp…

At these speeds, the train would need to drive in a low pressure tunnel.

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Post by 20190820234322 »

quaquaqua1 wrote: post #65
20190820234322 wrote: post #43

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I count at least three. No way this isn't an shill account.

Three posts about a large country constitutes a "shill account"? How does one even define "shill account"? Does the same standard apply to posts about USA or companies?

Of course the same standards do not apply. People living under democratic regimes can be assumed to have formed their views independently on their own, and to be speaking on their own behalf. People living totalitarian regimes cannot be treated as free-acting agents.

Re: China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains

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Post by KoftaBob »

simion314 wrote: post #57
KoftaBob wrote: post #23

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NIMBYs would block any of the eminent domain needed to build it. Not to mention infrastructure construction in this country is rife with corruption and incompetence. This results in HSR having massive price tags and taxpayers not wanting to foot the bill.

I assume there are already tracks between the major cities, probably used today mostly for materials and not people, so can't you put a new track near the existing one, this land would already have low value since trains are already passing there.

Those tracks you reference are owned by the freight companies, not the gov. Even a good chunk of the rail lines that Amtrak uses are merely being rented from the freight companies. The Northeast regional line that connects Boston -> NYC -> DC is one of the few lines in which Amtrak themselves own it.

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Post by jimktrains2 »

anovikov wrote: post #30
ju577ry wrote: post #19

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American here. Public transportation is seen as inconvenient and for lower class people, so large transit projects like this get no traction. You will never see executives or politicians taking trains to work like you do in European countries. Except in NYC.

Other, and actually main, reason is that good public transport decreases cost of land, it is basically designed to do so: it makes more places liveable/jobs reachable, so there is effectively more land for the same amount of people. So everyone will vote against or they lose their pensions. Want to fix this? Sure, easy, just scrap the democracy and just don't ask people, send those who object, to "re-education" camps…

Public transportation has a complex relationship with land value, but saying it decreases it across the board is blatantly false.

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2016/04/transit-stati...

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Post by briandear »

saberience wrote: post #28

So, as someone that lived in New York for 6 years and California for 6 years, stories like this are incredibly depressing. The US is the world's largest economy and should be the shining example of amazing infrastructure, high-tech, green cities, and forward thinking policies. California is an especially egregious example in terms of infrastructure investment: If California was a country it would be the world's fifth…

My father in law can fly from Los Angeles to San Jose in an hour for $150 round trip. Not sure why we need to lay tracks all over the land when we have flying machines.

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Post by pjc50 »

anovikov wrote: post #30
ju577ry wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

American here. Public transportation is seen as inconvenient and for lower class people, so large transit projects like this get no traction. You will never see executives or politicians taking trains to work like you do in European countries. Except in NYC.

Other, and actually main, reason is that good public transport decreases cost of land, it is basically designed to do so: it makes more places liveable/jobs reachable, so there is effectively more land for the same amount of people. So everyone will vote against or they lose their pensions. Want to fix this? Sure, easy, just scrap the democracy and just don't ask people, send those who object, to "re-education" camps…

Er, no. Public transport usually increases the price of land, and the rest of your post is just a bizarre totalitarian rant.
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