United Kingdom Budget Visualization

Post by switch007 » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 12:17 PM UTC

ackshually wrote: post #22

frobozz wrote: post #5

There, at the top of "Other Expenditures", Slightly smaller than running the Office of the Secretary of State for Wales. That is what's governing the entire political agenda right now. That's the amount of money stuck on the side of a bus with the suggestion that we could spend it on the NHS instead

I didn't vote leave because of the money. I voted leave because I was dubious about the control the elected and unelected officials and secretaries in brussels had over British politics, and the rats nest of well paid jobs with crazy benefits waiting for british politicians in brussels when they retire from british politics, so long as they play nice with the EU and go along with the will of the government in Brussel…

Post by kmm » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 12:18 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #68

quietbritishjim wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know Hacker News policy is to not talk about votes, but can we please be more vote friendly to this user, especially as they're new? I find it's very rare to see a Brexiteer in my usual bubble so I'm grateful to hear the opposing view. (At time of making this comment, the parent is greyed out from down votes.)

At this point, anyone who's still a Brexiteer has engaged in some extremely selective listening. There's no point in having a discussion with someone who won't seriously address the entirely likely problems of Brexit, both as a concept and how it is currently being done. (I mean, Brexiting to the status of Norway might at least have been feasible, but that's now a long way in the rear view mirror.)

Post by Swenrekcah » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 12:23 PM UTC

monadgonad wrote: post #58

ben_w wrote: post #40

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Good for you. Unfortunately, I have encountered quite a lot of people who do care about the money. Today, just half an hour ago, I saw someone tweeting that the EU was “bleeding the UK dry” by “taking” “£1 billion per month” [1] so I’m fairly sure that quite a lot of people did actually vote on the basis of the money. [1] 1e9, or roughly 0.01% of the EU-(annual)-GDP per month

Comparing £1b to the EU GDP per month and not the UK one is a bit disingenuous.

Post by dev_north_east » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 12:28 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #27

ackshually wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't vote leave because of the money. I voted leave because I was dubious about the control the elected and unelected officials and secretaries in brussels had over British politics, and the rats nest of well paid jobs with crazy benefits waiting for british politicians in brussels when they retire from british politics, so long as they play nice with the EU and go along with the will of the government in Brussel…

How do you feel about the unelected House of Lords? Or, for that matter, the election-untested Prime Minister and his definitely unelected SPADs? The EU parliamentarians are paid well, but I think there's a staff quality issue here and that UK MPs are actually underpaid; for the hours and responsibility, it's basically a company director level job. (Of course, the only people that take EU pay and deliberately do a ba…

Post by deadbunny » Thu, Oct 03, 2019, 12:31 PM UTC

monadgonad wrote: post #59

hardlianotion wrote: post #9

That is a great idea. Understanding government expenditure on some level should be a fundamental part of a citizen's participation. I don't yet fully understand how to read it. It's not really clear to me what the difference in income and expenditure is - the impression the diagram gives me is other that income is balanced by expenditure, or that there is a budget surplus maybe. I think I recall that there is a budge…

> Understanding government expenditure on some level should be a fundamental part of a citizen's participation. HMRC sends people this information annually - a breakdown of what their amount of tax paid was spent on.