Update: Approaching IPv4 Run-out
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Update: Approaching IPv4 Run-out
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#2nice of them to admit last times it wasn't serious then ;D they been calling this out since advent of ipv6 >.> are they just trying to sell ipv6 or what? since a lot of companies move to cloud solutions i can imagine this being less of an issue and a lot of blocks to be returned to the pool?
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#3RIPE, there's this story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Would suggest reading it.
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#4But there are secondary markets for IPv4, no?
https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=buy%20ipv4
Edit: And prices going up:
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#6It’ll be very intersting to see if this is enough to push ISPs to adopt IPv6 en masse, or they’ll keep dragging their feet and use nasty hacks like CG-NAT to avoid it.
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#7RIPE, there's this story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Would suggest reading it.
You have to be careful to distinguish what's going on here and who you are getting the IP addresses from.
When RIPE is out, the only way to get more addresses is by buying or renting them from somebody else who has a commercial interest to sell or rent you IP addresses or to control what you are doing with them.
With RIPE running out, there is no more way to get an IP address without asking a commercial third party for permission to be a part of the internet.
This will lead to a further centralization of the internet as the owners of big blocks will make sure that their blocks get even bigger so they can ask for rent for what was previously available for (mostly) free.
This isn't about saying that this is the end of the internet and the end of the ability for people to get on the internet, but it's definitely a huge change in landscape that we are going to feel as time goes on and we still refuse to go IPv6
Which makes sense considering that the exact same companies who would need to do something to get IPv6 going are also the same companies who have the most to gain from address scarcity.
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#8They were panicking about IPv4 running out 20 years ago, the amazing inventions of NAT and CIDR meant it never happened. I predict that we’ll be here in 20 years again.
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#9We're still waiting for the processing of our application from beginning of September, I hope we can still get at least a /24 block. We mainly plan to use it to become independent of specific cloud / IT providers and control more of our infrastructure stack.
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#10It’ll be very intersting to see if this is enough to push ISPs to adopt IPv6 en masse, or they’ll keep dragging their feet and use nasty hacks like CG-NAT to avoid it.
The more ISPs migrate to IPv6 and CG-NAT, the more free IPv4 addresses for everyone else. Wich means the migration will take a really long time.
Also the only way to reach an IPv6 target from a IPv4 source is through a CG-NAT, so dual stack IPv6+CG-NAT deployments should be the norm for many years to come.