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Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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Reading this site on iPad and chrome activates an ad/dialog that sends me to luckyguys-dot-top, which locks my iPad in a never-ending series of “Congrats lucky iPad user!” dialog boxes.

Ok, we switched to Reuters from https://www.anandtech.com/show/14930/samsung-stops-productio... .

Dang, this is the second time today an Anandtech article has been causing ad issues. I commented earlier about it happening to me but on a different article.

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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Apple should do it because it’s morally right.

Why?

short answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps "As of 2018, it is estimated that the Chinese authorities may have detained hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million, of Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Hui (Muslims) and other ethnic Turkic Muslims, Christians as well as some foreign citizens such as Kazakhstanis, who are kept in these secretive internment camps throughout the region."

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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Apple should do it because it’s morally right.

Why?

I'll try it without citations :)

Because China is an authoritarian regime that imprisons, and sometimes kills, people for their opinions.

Because China systematically destroyed one of the oldest and most peaceful cultures the world has ever seen in Tibet.

Because China put 100's of 1000's of Muslims in concentration camps. A program which is still happening by all (non Chinese government) accounts.

And so on.

Not that Apple makes decisions based on moral considerations.

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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Ok, we switched to Reuters from https://www.anandtech.com/show/14930/samsung-stops-productio... .

Dang, this is the second time today an Anandtech article has been causing ad issues. I commented earlier about it happening to me but on a different article.

That happened to me as well. I was worried I had a virus or something. Glad to know it's not me.

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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China can do without Samsung phones, the market is a political stake against Samsung and Korea, but their OLED and RAM are needed there, at least for now.

It doesn’t matter if China doesn’t need the phones. The phones were made there for other markets...

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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Samsung already makes most of their phones in Vietnam. Not a huge difference, other than the lack of tariffs. https://www.economist.com/asia/2018/04/12/why-samsung-of-sou...

There should be more push back against goods made in non-democratic countries like Vietnam, and not just against Made-in-China.

My previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S5 and I was surprised to find out that it was made in Korea. Manufacturing in Korea certainly didn't seem to harm Samsung's financial prospects back then, and the phone wasn't any more expensive than its Made-in-China competitors. I have zero reservations about South Korea's workers' rights protections, workplace health and safety, and environmental regulations.

Too often the discussion becomes:

1. We shouldn't manufacture in China

2. We can't afford to manufacture in US/EU

3. Let's just manufacture in Vietnam/Cambodia/Myanmar instead

When it should be:

a. We shouldn't manufacture in non-democratic countries

b. Let's manufacture in democratic countries instead

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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In addition to tariffs, they were effectively training their competitors in China. Manufacturing in China just accelerates the rate of IP theft.

Samsung claimed a Chinese company stole their folding phone screen tech.

https://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-foldable-screen-tec...

Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China

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I wonder why more producers haven't made this move? If Vietnam is there as far as infrastructure goes and they have the skilled/unskilled labor why is this not a more popular move. Also when we say "make" I assume we mean "assembles". Somewhat anecdotally I recently purchased a laptop and tried to find one that wasn't made in China and it was nigh on impossible.

Because most major manufacturers are mainly Chinese now(Huawei/Xiaomi/Oppo), and China is the NO1 market, why leave China? Samsung had been irrelevant in China for some years now, like below 1% market share. It just can't compete US is by far the only market that Chinese phones haven't dominated, but that is for a reason. Buying an Android in US there has surprising limited choices, Samsung/OnePlus/Pixel in that Orde…

Right. The US only. Well, also Japan. Also, Korea. I guess also much of Europe too. Or Canada. But, yeah other than that. Which I guess is really just India and China. So I guess the reason is median/mean income??
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