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Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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Because the government is backed by Iran (puppet) and it's fully corrupt?

Wait, didn't America wage a war to install a pro-American government in Iraq? Are they somehow pro-American and pro-Iran at the same time, or did they switch alliances while nobody in the west was paying attention?

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Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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And Europe has to pick up the pieces in terms of refugees while the US & Five Eyes sit back, popcorn in hand, and watch the mess they've made from a safe distance.

Europe doesn't have to do anything if it doesn't want to. They can just not let in refugees (whether legitimate refugees or pretenders).

Fortunately, we're not all bastards

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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As an American, I am curious to hear more about how we were "outplayed" re the Iraqi Gov. Thanks in advance.

1. USA ousts Saddam Hussein, and is obligated to help Iraq transition to a democratic government (because they invasion was done under the pretext of liberating a country from a mad dictator with weapons of mass destruction, instead of the commonly cited argument of securing resources for the American empire). 2. USA backs a candidate and initially gets a government elected that is favorable to the USA. However, thes…

I fail to see how this isn't a win for the US. The Iraqis get a less terrible government no matter who it is and we get to wash our hands of the situation without pissing off Israel or the Saudis.

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Starlink can’t come soon enough. Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments

Others have stated their objections to your comment, but... my belief is that once StarLink becomes operational, the American Gov. will have oversight & control of it, just like our current ISPs.

I believe that the only way the US could legally do that is by exerting control over up/downlink stations that are in US jurisdiction. I'm assuming that things like Starlink will have up and downlink stations in places outside of the US as well as inside.

Extralegally, though? All bets are off.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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Half these Pro-Americans used to hide in Iran before the war, America got outplayed when it comes to the Iraqi government lol

As an American, I am curious to hear more about how we were "outplayed" re the Iraqi Gov. Thanks in advance.

They got in, shot down Saddam, got a bunch of anti-Saddam parties and gave them power... most of them were hiding in Iran or worked with Iran during the Iraq/Iran war they didn't understand the powerplay by Iran, they kept struggling with troops in or out whos who etc... withdrawn and left the incompetent government alone, gave Iran, even more, breathing space to take over

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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1. USA ousts Saddam Hussein, and is obligated to help Iraq transition to a democratic government (because they invasion was done under the pretext of liberating a country from a mad dictator with weapons of mass destruction, instead of the commonly cited argument of securing resources for the American empire). 2. USA backs a candidate and initially gets a government elected that is favorable to the USA. However, thes…

I fail to see how this isn't a win for the US. The Iraqis get a less terrible government no matter who it is and we get to wash our hands of the situation without pissing off Israel or the Saudis.

It's not a win for the USA because one of their enemies gained influence in the region. It's really as simple as that, but:

The invasion also led to the rise of ISIS, which is widely seen as a embarrassment to the USA because they were supposed to be rebuilding a country and ended up allowing a large and deadly terrorist group to form under their noses.

And just to add on, there are literal losses as well. When the Iraqi army retreated from Mosul in 2014, they left behind a bunch of US supplied equipment that ISIS took control of. Iraq has "lost" at least a billion dollars of military equipment in recent years, most of which has been taken by ISIS and enabled terrorism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Mosul https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-lost-track-1-billion-wo...

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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Yeah, probably not much point in making an internet connection that only works without cloud cover.

I'd imagine a laser at typical radio wavelengths would be just as susceptible to cloud-cover-induced interference as a non-laser at typical radio wavelengths, no? Not that even lasers would be necessary to mitigate jamming; ordinary beam-forming / directional antennas should be enough (barring some really sophisticated jamming technology of which I'm not aware, or the Iraqi government putting up and maintaining perma…

> Jammers (to my knowledge) operate by actively producing an inverted copy of the signals it actually sees.

No. Usually, all you need is to do is to send a signal - any signal - on a frequency you want to jam with enough power to overwhelm the target signal. A directional antenna won't get a milliwatt satellite signal if it starts picking up half a kilowatt of random noise, even if that noise is coming from the side. It's essentially a matter of how much power your jammer radiates and how high you can put it. Whether or not jamming interferes with other radio communication depends on how much of the spectrum your jamming signal covers.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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> Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments Radio jammers. There are very few technological solutions to political problems.

Deploying and maintaining radio jamming devices is _way_ more difficult and expensive than telling an ISP to shut down service.

The technology that "turns off" the internet is not, in any way, required to run the internet. A router that uses deep packet inspection can process fewer packets than one that simply routes.

When communication networks can be accessed wirelessly, the devices that can block those communications will simply become part of what we understand as standard communication equipment.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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The initial government was pro-American, but the consequence of pushing a country to have democratic elections is that they sometimes elect people that you don't like. When you want a country to be free and democratic, you can't also tell them who to elect. You have to choose one or the other. The United States has often chosen the latter while pretending to want the former, but at least with Iraq they seem to be mos…

According to Wikipedia the Muslim population of the country is split 64–69% Shia and 29-34% Sunni. The Sunni minority once ruled but now the Shia majority rule and the government is said to be aligned with Shia-majority Iran.

Please don't bring up the Sunni Shia schism. It's a cliche narrative and it serves to grossly simplify problems in the country.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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This explains why I've been seeing #save_the_iraqi_people and related hashtags all over Instagram. For those not in the know: > demonstrators in Baghdad and elsewhere protest against lack of jobs and poor services. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/baghdad-police-open-f...

Contrast the public and political reaction to these events with the public and political reaction to the protests in Hong Kong.

Iraq is a basket case country whose government is hanging on by a thread. China is a superpower with clear aspirations to unipolar hegemony. They are not comparable and cannot be held to the same standard.
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