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> geography isn't a protected class Frequently it is. Many laws specifically protect "national origin".
Kentucky isn't a "national origin."
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Kentucky isn't a "national origin."
Kentucky doesn't has the support a specific national origin might have because there are no laws about that yet. It's an analogy.
Good luck.
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It’s almost 2020, not 1940. We have major cities that are majority nonwhite. We have entire statewide school districts that are mostly nonwhite. We have huge metropolitan areas that are mostly nonwhite. You can walk into an expensive luxury apartment complex in an immigrant heavy city and find tons of nonwhite people.
And yet the data still shows widespread economic disparity due to discrimination
The data shows widespread economic disparity. It does not show the cause, which may or may not be discrimination.
So we use tell the kids to study hard, get good grade and test well in the SAT/ACT. What exactly do we tell them now? How exactly do you tell a kid to be "awesome"?
That there are other Ivy League schools, a ton of other top schools, and a ton of amazing public state universities? That life ultimately is not fair and there is no objective measurement of merit to attend any of these institutions? That straight As and 1600s on the SAT are not all that matters in life? Maybe, Harvard isn't that big of a deal, in reality, there aren't really any jobs dominated by Harvard undergrads.
So we use tell the kids to study hard, get good grade and test well in the SAT/ACT. What exactly do we tell them now? How exactly do you tell a kid to be "awesome"?
There are 5,300 colleges and universities in the US alone. Maybe you tell them "Harvard's not the only option"?
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geography isn't a protected class. it's not a class at all. it's a set of circumstances. your skin color and the privileges or liabilities incurred are inescapable.
> geography isn't a protected class Frequently it is. Many laws specifically protect "national origin".
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There are 5,300 colleges and universities in the US alone. Maybe you tell them "Harvard's not the only option"?
But why? why can't it be an option? question is, there's only a few things in life you can control, SAT and grade being one of them. How do you work on something that you have no control over?
Because universities have decided (rightly, IMO) that just taking the applicants with the top GPA and SAT scores and no other criteria doesn't give a very vibrant student body.
Chances are a school like Harvard already has more "top student" scorers in this fashion than they can accept.
> How do you work on something that you have no control over?
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference."
There are plenty of things you can work on that colleges love to see. Volunteering, neat science projects, interesting life experiences, sports and performing arts, etc.
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Do you think the kids in poor immigrant neighborhoods are in worse positions than poor kids in eastern Kentucky? Because the current policies treat white kids from trailer parks like white kids from fancy suburbs. And they treat FOB Asians like they are doctor's children. And black kids from fancy suburbs are treated as if they came from poor ghettos. The idea that "oppression" is limited to dimensions of race and ge…
> Do you think the kids in poor immigrant neighborhoods are in worse positions than poor kids in eastern Kentucky? Your line of reasoning did a dodge there, swapping out between geographic demographics and racial demographics. I don't think all kids in poor immigrant neighborhoods are in worse positions than poor kids in Eastern Kentucky. I do think that all the white-looking kids in eastern Kentucky, regardless of o…
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I don't think "fixing income inequality" needs to mean that everyone is paid the same amount. It's reasonable to believe that isn't a million times more productive than their median employee, and that factors other than pure merit allowed them to amass that much wealth. Even if you did think that they were that meritorious, you could still make an argument that "fairness" should involve balancing both merit and utili…
> It's reasonable to believe that isn't a million times more productive than their median employee If a normal employee at say walmart brings in $100 worth of value a day to the company, and the CEO executes a few big multi-million dollar deals that month, then the CEO in fact would be significantly more productive (in terms of capital to the company) than the average employee. > and that factors other than pure meri…
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I believe Roberts would vote with Harvard.
The same Justice Roberts who said: " The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. "? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Involved_in_Community_...