Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions Process

Post by mywittyname » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

kache_ wrote: post #143

rr-geil-j wrote: post #89

This feels reminiscent of 'diversity hires' where females and/or members of the LGBT+ community are preferred not because of competency/merit but to improve a company's diversity metrics. Disclaimer: I haven't experienced this myself. I only read/heard of these complaints from other people.

This ends up hurting females and L/G/B/T people in our industry because people will have a preconception that they may have been hired for reasons other than merit. To bring it back to the article, imagine being a black harvard graduate. People may judge you as lesser compared to asian harvard graduates, because they know that you've been held to different standards, even if you had the merit and deserved your placem…

Post by Miner49er » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

AdrianB1 wrote: post #148

Miner49er wrote: post #129

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I'm saying that white people have inherited a lot of wealth at the cost of black people. Wealth statistics clearly show this. The average black family is 10x poorer then the average white family. The stealing was done through Jim Crow, slavery, red lining, etc. If you inherit money that your parents stole, that money is taken away from you by the police and given back to the person it was stolen from. In this case, w…

"White people" is a vast generalization, it includes people that came in US much later than the history you are talking about. How can you even consider punishing them for something they did not do, just because they are the same race as the people that did something bad a long time ago? This is racism in the purest form.

Post by SpaceL10n » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 9:04 PM UTC

strikelaserclaw wrote: post #112

habosa wrote: post #96

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As a Jewish person I feel weird seeing "whites" being broken into Jewish and non-Jewish. What about other religions? Why include religion at all? In particular with respect to Harvard and Boston I'd think Catholicism might deserve a mention if we're going to bring religion into this. In the end I think religious diversity is important but it doesn't belong in the same conversation. You can choose your religion and al…

Aren't Jews a race and a religion? Plenty of non religious Jews out there.

Post by zhugeIiang » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 9:04 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #164

mrtweetyhack wrote: post #90

Asians should just boycott Harvard. Overall quality of Harvard grads will drop and Harvard will become nothing.

Imagine the uproar if you had instead said > Whites should just boycott Harvard. Overall quality of Harvard grads will drop and Harvard will become nothing.

Post by Invictus0 » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 9:05 PM UTC

dcolkitt wrote: post #158

jdoliner wrote: post #110

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These numbers are next to meaningless, Harvard doesn't just accept people from the US, so we should be looking at population percentages of the world. I assume that people who don't fit in any category are shunted into one of them based on skin color. For example a Jamaican is, I assume, counted in the African American bucket, and compared against the African American population, even though they're neither American…

> While about 8 percent, or about 530, of Harvard's undergraduates were black, Lani Guinier, a Harvard law professor, and Henry Louis Gates Jr., the chairman of Harvard's African and African-American studies department, pointed out that the majority of them -- perhaps as many as two-thirds -- were West Indian and African immigrants or their children, or to a lesser extent, children of biracial couples. > They said th…