The 2002 mandate for internal communication systems at Amazon

Post by hello_moto » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:51 PM UTC

defen wrote: post #43

xyzzyz wrote: post #40

> While the third point makes all the difference in the world, what Amazon really did get right that Google didn’t was an internal communication system designed to make all the rest possible. > Having teams acting like individual APIs and interacting with one another through interfaces over the network was the catalyst of a series of consequent actions that eventually made possible the realization of AWS in a way tha…

> Google has worked this way since time immemorial. Do internal Google services exclusively use the Google Cloud Platform APIs? The implication is that internal Amazon services exclusively use AWS APIs. I've never worked at either company though, so I don't know if it's true. Perhaps someone could clarify.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:55 PM UTC

mason55 wrote: post #33

adambyrtek wrote: post #14

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This is one of the niches where (S)FTP and batch processing is still alive and kicking.

Yeah, SFTP + CSV file is still the standard for enterprise software. The problem is that these kinds of things have to be built to the lowest common denominator, which is usually the customer anyway. The customer in enterprise software is usually not a tech company they typically have outdated IT policies and less skilled developers than a pure tech company would have. Even if the developers are capable of doing some…

Post by dastbe » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:56 PM UTC

hello_moto wrote: post #51

defen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google has worked this way since time immemorial. Do internal Google services exclusively use the Google Cloud Platform APIs? The implication is that internal Amazon services exclusively use AWS APIs. I've never worked at either company though, so I don't know if it's true. Perhaps someone could clarify.

> The implication is that internal Amazon services exclusively use AWS APIs. Untrue. Some even use older version of AWS "core" services (S3), not the latest and greatest version of AWS services.

Post by jrochkind1 » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:01 PM UTC

Post by babesh » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:05 PM UTC

maxlybbert wrote: post #47

Waterluvian wrote: post #4

> 6) Anyone who doesn’t do this will be fired. So I've never worked at a company over 150 people. Is this... a normal thing for an email? Maybe I'm just one of those softies but an email with that line would throw me off my day and cause a serious hit to my morale and confidence of working there.

Very few managers in large companies can throw around threats like that, and the ones who can realize it just makes them look unhinged like the Queen of Hearts in “Alice in Wonderland.” Incidentally, a couple of years ago, I was a contractor for Amazon for a very short time. One thing that stood out was that customers would email Bezos directly, or problems would bubble up to him in some other way, and he would respo…