Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong Kong protests

Post by jaynetics » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:40 PM UTC

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What are the 19 first?

- what I have for dinner (ok, sorry, it said global problems), so maybe: - collapse of bird, insect, reptile populations over all the developed world due to pesticide use, habitat loss, etc. - decline of natural environment, waters, forests, etc. - loss of linguistic/cultural diversity around the world - decline of institutions and social cohesion in my immediate neighborhood - society-wide addictive tendencies - the…

Post by Mirioron » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:41 PM UTC

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We can't defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan... and that's just the size of Texas. The rocky mountains cover more area than AF; our borders are more porous (the Canadian border is the longest in the world); and our citizens have the most firearms in the world - total or per person (far more than AF or IQ). The US military cant stop insurgents from moving across the border with Pakistan, but they would be able to sto…

> We can't defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan With supply lines halfway across the globe, and a military most of whose personnel don't speak the language, don't know the country, don't know the culture, etc. And, in most of time we've notionally been trying, only a fairly small deployment compared to our total military force.

Post by fiter » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:43 PM UTC

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>The 2nd amendment made a lot of sense when weaponry consisted of horses and rifles, not computer-guided missiles. Let me make sure I understand your basic premise: the ability to defend yourself against a tyrannical dictatorship made sense until the government developed better technology, now it's pointless so just give up your guns? Aside from being completely contrary to the American spirit of defending yourself f…

> Where is the military going to fire those "computer guided missiles?" Blowing up a home or two harboring a "terrorist cell" during a meeting I'm sure will be deterrence enough for a lot of those gun owners. > Are they going to destroy their own infrastructure? The infrastructure is the exact kind of ground that can be held much more securely against pistols and rifles using the U.S.'s advanced weaponry. > Do you th…

Post by orthecreedence » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:44 PM UTC

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> US has some founding morals and principles they do not forget. Excuse my french, but what the fuck are you talking about? How about imprisoning and torturing US citizens without due process in the name of a nebulous war that only gets worse the more we fight it? What about all the puppet governments we've set up so that our corporate overlords can make a quick buck at the expense of some country who's resources we…

The key here is that the executive branch of the US government doesn't get to do these things in a vacuum - both Congress and the Supreme Court temper its power, and though elections in the US are far from perfect they are still free.

Post by javagram » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 5:45 PM UTC

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

The American Revolution wasn't a citizen uprising, it was a local-government uprising it did rely on citizen militias against professional soldiers, but those citizen militias were the regular security forces of the local governments , which also the central government relied on for local security in routine cases, not counterbalances to them. That's the model the second amendment attempted to preserve, but even with…