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China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism

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Re: China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism

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Post by scrps »

honest_tovarich wrote: post #3
yangdehang wrote: post #2

I cannot believe someone posted this on HN.

Yup, hating China is cool these days... people that have never been there nor understand the language or the culture are the ones that share all of this non-sense.

Since when is criticizing a national government or it's policies == hating an entire country? Not to mention the author was born and raised in China... I would also be careful in raising the assumption that most people reading FP (or for that matter HN) have never been to or lived in China.

Edit: typo

Re: China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism

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Post by mr_overalls »

honest_tovarich wrote: post #3
yangdehang wrote: post #2

I cannot believe someone posted this on HN.

Yup, hating China is cool these days... people that have never been there nor understand the language or the culture are the ones that share all of this non-sense.

There is plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of the resurgence of Chinese nationalism - just as there is for American and Russian nationalism.

“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.” ― Arthur Schopenhauer

Re: China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism

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Post by yangdehang »

There are of course fools in China just like everywhere else in the world, they don't represent us all，however the articles does not agree with it or should I say the author is one of the fools? It is full of hate with some fake facts. I am not denying nationalism is a bad thing for the people, but I agree it is a good temporary strategy to rule fools especially in country like China. Open some books about Chinese histories and show some respect is all I hope to get.

Re: China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism

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Post by chinalover123 »

yangdehang wrote: post #7

There are of course fools in China just like everywhere else in the world, they don't represent us all，however the articles does not agree with it or should I say the author is one of the fools? It is full of hate with some fake facts. I am not denying nationalism is a bad thing for the people, but I agree it is a good temporary strategy to rule fools especially in country like China. Open some books about Chinese hi…

> It is full of hate with some fake facts

Such as?

> I say the author is one of the fools

Ad hominem

> Open some books about Chinese histories and show some respect is all I hope to get

Please enlighten us with your knowledge

Overall, your comment is low effort

Re: China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

mr_overalls wrote: post #6
honest_tovarich wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, hating China is cool these days... people that have never been there nor understand the language or the culture are the ones that share all of this non-sense.

There is plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of the resurgence of Chinese nationalism - just as there is for American and Russian nationalism. “Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.” ― Arthu…

And, we criticize American and Russian nationalism here. Why can't we criticize Chinese nationalism?

(And, yes, there is danger of painting with too broad a brush, no matter which nation's nationalism we are criticizing. Not everyone there is a nationalist, for any value of "there".)

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