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Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

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Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

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You know who else shares my phone number and address? The phone book!

You know who else shares my phone number and address? The phone book!

but the phone book doesn't call up the websites you visit to tell them that it's you that's visiting them. It's not about the specific information being available; it's about the context it's available in and what other information it could be connected to.

Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

#72

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The app has to warn you as to what is getting sent; you then get to decide if you want the app or not. In other words, it's not really "all or nothing" as much as "whatever this particular app asks for, or pass on this app."

Exactly. Give this app "all" of the information it is requesting or give "nothing." People want more granular control.

No, they don't. And most likely, you don't want them to have it, either.

As a developer, you are responsible for asking for the information your app requires to function properly. You are required (by the Facebook TOS) to specify what information you will get, and how you will use it.

The user than has to choose if it is worth it or not, for this particular app.

If Facebook offered the users "more granular control" over what would be sent, this would result in apps not knowing in advance what information would be available to them, which would result in a pretty crappy user experience.

Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

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If you look at the bio of the submitter, he writes for ReadWriteWeb and, I believe, wrote the article. Nothing wrong with that; people often submit their own work here.

You are correct. I write for ReadWriteWeb, wrote the article and I think that the URL has that code in it because I clicked on the Hacker News button on the article to share it. :)

Perfectly good! I have no issue with it, I just thought it was worth pointing out as I had seen the same URL tweeted.

Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

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They used to provide this option but it actually made the API harder to work with. You could deny or approve one permission at a time and the developer had to handle it (and by handling that really meant always checking for permissions before actions and bugging the user for the permission whenever they tried something that required it). As a developer I prefer the new way, which is also how Android development works…

Are you serious? A better API would be if it were just a yes or no to send all my information? I couldn't possibly disagree more. Newflash: I don't give a shit about how hard your job as a programmer is. If you don't like programming take up something else. I care about my security and not having to worry about what effect clicking "OK" is going to have. Plenty of apps ask you things that they don't need to function.

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Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

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They used to provide this option but it actually made the API harder to work with. You could deny or approve one permission at a time and the developer had to handle it (and by handling that really meant always checking for permissions before actions and bugging the user for the permission whenever they tried something that required it). As a developer I prefer the new way, which is also how Android development works…

Are you serious? A better API would be if it were just a yes or no to send all my information? I couldn't possibly disagree more. Newflash: I don't give a shit about how hard your job as a programmer is. If you don't like programming take up something else. I care about my security and not having to worry about what effect clicking "OK" is going to have. Plenty of apps ask you things that they don't need to function.

I love being an engineer. You have a chip on your shoulder. I recommend not using Facebook at all given your concerns. I do not maintain a Facebook account myself for anything but development.

Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

#76

You know who else shares my phone number and address? The phone book!

And you can opt out of being in a phone book while continuing to use your phone.

Not to mention phone books have been sliding down a steep slope of irrelevancy for the past 10 or 15 years as cell phones increased in popularity.

Re: Facebook Now Shares Phone Number & Address With Third-Party Apps

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Are you serious? A better API would be if it were just a yes or no to send all my information? I couldn't possibly disagree more. Newflash: I don't give a shit about how hard your job as a programmer is. If you don't like programming take up something else. I care about my security and not having to worry about what effect clicking "OK" is going to have. Plenty of apps ask you things that they don't need to function.

I love being an engineer. You have a chip on your shoulder. I recommend not using Facebook at all given your concerns. I do not maintain a Facebook account myself for anything but development.

I have a chip on my shoulder? I'm speaking as a customer. You're giving me excuses as to why I should compromise my own convenience and security to make your job easier. Why on earth would I care about making your job easier?

Facebook provides value and poor, lazy anti-security undermines that value and puts me in the inconvenient position of thinking of a move [1]. And for what value? So developers don't have to write a switch statement? Seriously?

[1] It's not as simple as "just take your business elsewhere". The only purpose of facebook for me is connecting with friends and family. So going while they all stay is rather pointless. Getting other people, who have a different circle of friends/family, to move with me would be practically impossible.

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