Wow, talking about putting the horse behind the carriage.
So, people don't have the concentration to read a book anymore. But instead of fixing the cause of this, whatever it is, we mangle them through platforms that weren't designed for it and if there is some success, we claim that people are reading again. Of course they are not. It's a whole different experience. It can be nice and it can add to the experiences that we already knew, but it is definitely not the same as reading a book. It is more like seeing the movie adaptation of the book.
Books have remained the same for centuries. If people are suddenly unable to read them anymore, it is far more likely that it is the people that need "fixing", and not the books.
Wow, talking about putting the horse behind the carriage. So, people don't have the concentration to read a book anymore. But instead of fixing the cause of this, whatever it is, we mangle them through platforms that weren't designed for it and if there is some success, we claim that people are reading again. Of course they are not. It's a whole different experience. It can be nice and it can add to the experiences t…
> it can add to the experiences that we already knew, but it is definitely not the same as reading a book. It is more like seeing the movie adaptation of the book.
In full text, in text only form, verbatim
Explain the distinction you are making again and why do you feel it is a productive distinction to make?
It is likely that if you did an experiment that compared retention and understanding of reading with the real books and these Instagram Stories, the readers of real books would trounce the Instagram readers. I suppose that something is better than nothing but at a certain point, I also wonder, what is the point of doing this? I wonder how many Instagram readers will drop their habits and read more? I also wonder how…
If people have a compelling experience who cares?
I think its useful as a thought exercise and idea for profiles but nothing more. Its not useful for NYPL to increase its physical engagement, and thats fine. Kinda a fun reason to use instagram though, see what a profile is up to.
Sidenote: I’ve inadvertently joined book clubs just because a meme account started shilling a book and then started posting memes about the book
Really excited about these kind of steps taken towards multimedia literature and digitalization of it. For quite some time, school textbooks and literature has been brought to touch screen devices or otherwise digitalized on other devices as-is - pages with text as we have known it for long time. Modern tech could enable much more deeper and interactable content for both studies and leisure reading.
and yet in my experience most HNers and similar tech communities want all docs in plain text, tex, or very simple markdown suggest that Wikipedia would be better if it's physics articles had interactive simulations or that stack overflow's failed docs initiative should make room for working examples and get downvoted into oblivion
We've seen some interactive education projects on HN (the famous page on raytracing, the one where there's everything about curves, many audio-based projects) and they have had great reception. I think the reason why most devs still prefer plain-text resources over anything else is two-fold: interactive stuff tends to be less standard (because there isn't really a good standard for it) and harder to version than text, but also for interactive education/documentation tools to be accepted, they need to meet a certain high bar of quality, otherwise they are just eye-candy with insufficient value-add. When developing such tools, I believe there is a point of immersion after which they clearly become superior to text materials to most people including otherwise text-heavy devs, but if an author of such interactive tool fails to reach this level, their work is seen as a distraction, because you still need to refer elsewhere. Stack Overflow's documentation examples (as much as I really wished the initiative would succeed) were very far from reaching this bar. They were not organized well, lackluster and were not interactive enough either.
Wow, talking about putting the horse behind the carriage. So, people don't have the concentration to read a book anymore. But instead of fixing the cause of this, whatever it is, we mangle them through platforms that weren't designed for it and if there is some success, we claim that people are reading again. Of course they are not. It's a whole different experience. It can be nice and it can add to the experiences t…
> it can add to the experiences that we already knew, but it is definitely not the same as reading a book. It is more like seeing the movie adaptation of the book. In full text, in text only form, verbatim Explain the distinction you are making again and why do you feel it is a productive distinction to make?
The article says there are animations which “bring the story to life”. Normal adult readers don’t need pictures and animations to aid engagement/understanding - people who are more used to watching movies or reading series of tweets/reaction gifs might.
Wow, talking about putting the horse behind the carriage. So, people don't have the concentration to read a book anymore. But instead of fixing the cause of this, whatever it is, we mangle them through platforms that weren't designed for it and if there is some success, we claim that people are reading again. Of course they are not. It's a whole different experience. It can be nice and it can add to the experiences t…
> it can add to the experiences that we already knew, but it is definitely not the same as reading a book. It is more like seeing the movie adaptation of the book. In full text, in text only form, verbatim Explain the distinction you are making again and why do you feel it is a productive distinction to make?
Really excited about these kind of steps taken towards multimedia literature and digitalization of it. For quite some time, school textbooks and literature has been brought to touch screen devices or otherwise digitalized on other devices as-is - pages with text as we have known it for long time. Modern tech could enable much more deeper and interactable content for both studies and leisure reading.
and yet in my experience most HNers and similar tech communities want all docs in plain text, tex, or very simple markdown suggest that Wikipedia would be better if it's physics articles had interactive simulations or that stack overflow's failed docs initiative should make room for working examples and get downvoted into oblivion
It's almost as if they're aimed at completely different audiences!
> it can add to the experiences that we already knew, but it is definitely not the same as reading a book. It is more like seeing the movie adaptation of the book. In full text, in text only form, verbatim Explain the distinction you are making again and why do you feel it is a productive distinction to make?
The article says there are animations which “bring the story to life”. Normal adult readers don’t need pictures and animations to aid engagement/understanding - people who are more used to watching movies or reading series of tweets/reaction gifs might.
Wow, talking about putting the horse behind the carriage. So, people don't have the concentration to read a book anymore. But instead of fixing the cause of this, whatever it is, we mangle them through platforms that weren't designed for it and if there is some success, we claim that people are reading again. Of course they are not. It's a whole different experience. It can be nice and it can add to the experiences t…
Did book reading per capita actually decrease?
Back then, learning to read at all was nerdy and privileged.